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RX 6700XT VS 3060
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6700XT, no question about it, it's quite a bit faster in rasterisation which to me, is worth much more than Ray Tracing right now, I haven't seen how the 6700XT would compare using AMD Fidelity FSR and Ray Tracing though, that will take a bit of time as mostly it's different games with DLSS and FSR support currently. If the baseline rasterisation performance was similar then given nvenc and DLSS maybe the Nvidia would be the way to go, but in this case I think AMD takes it. Bear in mind the 6700XT and 3060 aren't really meant to compete with each other, that will be what a 6600XT or perhaps a 6700 is for.
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At that level Ray Tracing is mute point as both cards really lack the grunt to push it. For me it comes down to the extra performance you get from a RX 6700XT or RTX 3060's ability to use DLSS (and FSR). Personally I would want the extra grunt but it's up to you.
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6700XT all day assuming close to MSRP. If not then neither. Don't feed the scalpers
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6700XT all the way
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Thanks.
Hoping I will not break any rules, availability changed so here are the models and prices (it's a german custom PC builder, I won't disclose the name):
- ASUS DUAL-RX6700XT-12G €658,50
- MSI GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING X TRIO €673,50
I just realized that while cheaper one is a dual fan card VS a 3 fan one...
Hoping I will not break any rules, availability changed so here are the models and prices (it's a german custom PC builder, I won't disclose the name):
- ASUS DUAL-RX6700XT-12G €658,50
- MSI GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING X TRIO €673,50
I just realized that while cheaper one is a dual fan card VS a 3 fan one...
6700xt is a much better 1080p card
- 2.5 ghz speed of rdna 2 cards makes nvidia card at 1.9 ghz look like a tortoise. not kidding, all ampere gpus are computational focused gpus. this results as a low compute utilization at lower resolutions. 6700xt having a high frequency can help it run near a 3070ti in many titles and surpass a 3070 most of the time.
- lower cpu usage and lower cpu overhead. this is much more meaningful at 1080p because you tend to get high enough framerates at 1080p to get into cpu bound situations more often. a 3060/3070 will hamper your CPU bound performance by %20 percent
- 3-4 years later, once nvidia drops the special sauce driver magic for their ampere gpus, you will see 6700xt beating 3080 in some circumstances which will be fun to see
and finally, RT is not a "mute point" for both GPUs. both GPUs are much more capable than Series X/PS5. Just because you can't lower your expectations, it doesn't make 6700xt or 3060 not capable of running RT.
i can't for the life of me find a "toned down" exodus and re village benchmarks out there. even with everything pushed to the max (unnecessarily) both GPUs will perform 60+ frames with rt enabled at higher resolutions than 1440p. each game has a guide that you can follow to adhere to console standard rt settings which usually includes a fair compromise between image quality and performance so you will still get the benefits of RT and get good performance in the same time.
this dude casually plays at 1440p, with rt gi and rt reflections on and geting 50-70 frames. supposedly on an "obsolete rt gpu". (at 1080p it would never go below 60 fps i would imagine, or turning of rt reflections should do the trick at 1440p, just like it does on series x). cyberpunk is one bad apple that specifically needs "dlss". once 6700xt gets its own FSR in such games, it will be competitive/better than rtx 3060 in majority of RT titles too (since it has %30-50 extra raster fire, it can make up, or even get the upperhand even when rt is enabled. and dlss is pretty much matched)
don't give too much credence to this forum's users, its gotta be 4k 360 fps or bust for most of them. gotta max out everything. or the gpu sucks and is not capable at all
this is a little bit rant, but there's no point downplaying lower end gpus' RT capabilities. there are sacrifices that can be made, and you can still get the most of the RT. even series s can push rt on certain games.
- 2.5 ghz speed of rdna 2 cards makes nvidia card at 1.9 ghz look like a tortoise. not kidding, all ampere gpus are computational focused gpus. this results as a low compute utilization at lower resolutions. 6700xt having a high frequency can help it run near a 3070ti in many titles and surpass a 3070 most of the time.
- lower cpu usage and lower cpu overhead. this is much more meaningful at 1080p because you tend to get high enough framerates at 1080p to get into cpu bound situations more often. a 3060/3070 will hamper your CPU bound performance by %20 percent
- 3-4 years later, once nvidia drops the special sauce driver magic for their ampere gpus, you will see 6700xt beating 3080 in some circumstances which will be fun to see
and finally, RT is not a "mute point" for both GPUs. both GPUs are much more capable than Series X/PS5. Just because you can't lower your expectations, it doesn't make 6700xt or 3060 not capable of running RT.
i can't for the life of me find a "toned down" exodus and re village benchmarks out there. even with everything pushed to the max (unnecessarily) both GPUs will perform 60+ frames with rt enabled at higher resolutions than 1440p. each game has a guide that you can follow to adhere to console standard rt settings which usually includes a fair compromise between image quality and performance so you will still get the benefits of RT and get good performance in the same time.
this dude casually plays at 1440p, with rt gi and rt reflections on and geting 50-70 frames. supposedly on an "obsolete rt gpu". (at 1080p it would never go below 60 fps i would imagine, or turning of rt reflections should do the trick at 1440p, just like it does on series x). cyberpunk is one bad apple that specifically needs "dlss". once 6700xt gets its own FSR in such games, it will be competitive/better than rtx 3060 in majority of RT titles too (since it has %30-50 extra raster fire, it can make up, or even get the upperhand even when rt is enabled. and dlss is pretty much matched)
don't give too much credence to this forum's users, its gotta be 4k 360 fps or bust for most of them. gotta max out everything. or the gpu sucks and is not capable at all
this is a little bit rant, but there's no point downplaying lower end gpus' RT capabilities. there are sacrifices that can be made, and you can still get the most of the RT. even series s can push rt on certain games.
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At that price none of them. Prices are slowly starting to drop,so I would wait. Beware being caught up in the mania of "missing out". For the money you are willing to pay it should at least a RTX3070TI,RX6800 or RTX3080.Remember,what happened in 2017/2018 during the last mining boon?? Prices eventually dropped.
Also with RT,both are already struggling so in another year or two its only to get worse,especially when the RTX4060/RX7700XT are out. So its a nice option to have but its not going to be a very lasting option IMHO. Many here on this forum will change GPUs every year or two,and would have done so already if it were not for mining,so they are never going to keep them long enough to care.
Even WRT,forum enthusiasts have forgotten we are still at the intergenerational stage with console games,where they have to run also on the older consoles. As time progresses and more next generation exclusives become the norm,I doubt an RTX3060/RX6700XT is going to beat any of the consoles as time progresses. Its what DF saw at the start of every console generation - equivalent PC hardware at the start just started to fall behind over time.
You would really have to probably look at an RTX3070 upwards IMHO.
Also with RT,both are already struggling so in another year or two its only to get worse,especially when the RTX4060/RX7700XT are out. So its a nice option to have but its not going to be a very lasting option IMHO. Many here on this forum will change GPUs every year or two,and would have done so already if it were not for mining,so they are never going to keep them long enough to care.
Even WRT,forum enthusiasts have forgotten we are still at the intergenerational stage with console games,where they have to run also on the older consoles. As time progresses and more next generation exclusives become the norm,I doubt an RTX3060/RX6700XT is going to beat any of the consoles as time progresses. Its what DF saw at the start of every console generation - equivalent PC hardware at the start just started to fall behind over time.
You would really have to probably look at an RTX3070 upwards IMHO.
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