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RX6000 finally appears on the Steam survey, but RTX3090 beats it

It's been such a long time since you've been able to buy a 6800 card, the 6700 are twice the price still, I don't blame it's lack of representation. Though AMD still wins, 10 million ps5 sold alone and that beats all Nvidia sales several times over
 
Raelgun said:
It's been such a long time since you've been able to buy a 6800 card, the 6700 are twice the price still, I don't blame it's lack of representation. Though AMD still wins, 10 million ps5 sold alone and that beats all Nvidia sales several times over
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I think the consoles are the problem, AMD doesn't focus on PC GPU for production
 
New news but same old story. Given the bulk of Nvidia's production goes into consumer graphics still that's to be expected, if you added the SoCs from the consoles that would be different picture.
 
Raelgun said:
It's been such a long time since you've been able to buy a 6800 card, the 6700 are twice the price still, I don't blame it's lack of representation. Though AMD still wins, 10 million ps5 sold alone and that beats all Nvidia sales several times over
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nVidia sold more than 9 million GPUs in Q4 2020 though it is unknown what percentage is Ampere - sales of RTX GPUs, 2000 and 3000 so far are around 20 million. Despite the shortages which gives the appearance of low numbers nVidia has shipped well over 100 thousand of FE 3000 series alone.
 
Not any surprise given amd stated a while back that 80% of the supply was going to consoles hence the lack of supply for PC space and the insane prices.
 
Historically, AMD have been super cautious about their forecast (I think this goes back to a few years ago when they had to write of a lot of stock - seems crazy to continue this now though), so it is possible they simply booked very few wafers at launch.

It is what has happened since launch which is interesting.

It looks like MS and (especially) Sony have been able to grab lots of extra wafers even at the cost of AMD loosing marketshare in GPUs and selling far fewer CPUs than they could have.

Whoever negotiated the contract at MS & Sony must have been very good, while whoever accepted at AMD must have been desperate!

Nvidia sold 9 million GPUs in Q4 2020? That's a truly crazy amount, and presumably at far higher margins than console (even if MS & Sony paid for some R&D upfront).
 
Rroff said:
nVidia sold more than 9 million GPUs in Q4 2020 though it is unknown what percentage is Ampere - sales of RTX GPUs, 2000 and 3000 so far are around 20 million. Despite the shortages which gives the appearance of low numbers nVidia has shipped well over 100 thousand of FE 3000 series alone.
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Reality check there. Add to that the margins on the gpus being vastly higher compared to console SOCs. Nvidia is destroying AMD more than ever before which is unfortunate imo.
 
Rroff said:
nVidia sold more than 9 million GPUs in Q4 2020 though it is unknown what percentage is Ampere - sales of RTX GPUs, 2000 and 3000 so far are around 20 million. Despite the shortages which gives the appearance of low numbers nVidia has shipped well over 100 thousand of FE 3000 series alone.
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If you're gonna broaden the scope of products then AMD still wins, consider the PS4, Xboxes are still selling, I don't have numbers on the Xbox series sales yet. Issue with AMD right now is, the stock for any of the products is minimal or not gauged to hell
 
NZXT30 said:
Reality check there. Add to that the margins on the gpus being vastly higher compared to console SOCs. Nvidia is destroying AMD more than ever before which is unfortunate imo.
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True but true current climate isn't Nvidia or AMD benefitting from the increases prices.
 
Raelgun said:
It's been such a long time since you've been able to buy a 6800 card, the 6700 are twice the price still, I don't blame it's lack of representation. Though AMD still wins, 10 million ps5 sold alone and that beats all Nvidia sales several times over
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Yeah AMD have a sweet deal with the consoles but i bet they make very little on each unit. Still big money added up though due to the sheer amount of them
 
dave28 said:
Yeah AMD have a sweet deal with the consoles but i bet they make very little on each unit. Still big money added up though due to the sheer amount of them
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Yeah though nvidia does have a more broad portfolio of products to sell on a unit by unit basis so helps the income flow.

Lot of AMD business in the GPU department is contract based so I think the aspect of desperation is not a thing but just good business deals
 
Its just another concerning trend in PC gaming hardware, AMD simply missed out on an opportunity either because they couldn't or didn't want to. Either way that is a negative impact on consumers because what it says is 'there is no competition'.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
Its just another concerning trend in PC gaming hardware, AMD simply missed out on an opportunity either because they couldn't or didn't want to. Either way that is a negative impact on consumers because what it says is 'there is no competition'.
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If AMD made a GPU with two times the rasterization and RT performance at half the price of Nvidia GPU's AMD might sell as many GPU's as Nvidia.

You're right, there is no competition, but that is our fault.
 
When the same survey still has 1080p as the most popular screen whether AMD or Nvidia GPU's are popular doesnt matter and for the 3090 to be appear more doesnt take a slide rule to know its because stock was available. 6080's have been scarcer than 3080's.
 
humbug said:
If AMD made a GPU with two times the rasterization and RT performance at half the price of Nvidia GPU's AMD might sell as many GPU's as Nvidia.
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Even then I think it'd be a tough nut to crack!! Nvidia are like a well burrowed in enemy, hard to get at with the mindshare they have.

If they had unlimited capacity I'd like for them to try though :)
 
JediFragger said:
Even then I think it'd be a tough nut to crack!! Nvidia are like a well burrowed in enemy, hard to get at with the mindshare they have.

If they had unlimited capacity I'd like for them to try though :)
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Yeah i'd like to see them try, if the Navi 31 Rumours are true, because of the MCM design AMD could be near twice as fast as Nvidia after both of them have thier new GPU's on the market, those GPU's from AMD are not going to be cheap but it will be interesting to see just how much people care about brands vs E-Peen, having THIE monster GPU.

If the rumours are true this is probably also an experiment from AMD, just build an unassailable ridiculous GPU and see what happens.
 
BigBANGtheory said:
Its just another concerning trend in PC gaming hardware, AMD simply missed out on an opportunity either because they couldn't or didn't want to. Either way that is a negative impact on consumers because what it says is 'there is no competition'.
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AMD this time hasn't missed anything at all, look at all the contacts they have, AMD are at full steam with little to give.

Just look at those monster apple rDNA GPUs recently.
 
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