Settle an arguement (Level Crossing)

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Taking a colleague home after he'd damaged his ankle at work when I came across a road running parallel to a train station. Just after the platform there is a T-junction with a level crossing on the minor road to my major road.

The wig-wags were on red however as I was not intending on crossing the rails & there is no control white line on the major road I carried on & he remarked that I had broken the law and effectively run the red light.

I disagree on the basis of the lack of control line, that I was not crossing the rails & that the lights, whilst facing traffic on the major road are in fact sited on the minor.

For reasons unknown this arguement has irked me

So who's right?

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Colleague is an idiot. Why on earth would you even consider stopping on that main road :confused:
 
Did he break his ankle doing something idiotic? Because your colleague is an idiot.
 
Does your colleague lick windows, because what they're suggesting is absolutely mental?
 
Did he break his ankle doing something idiotic? Because your colleague is an idiot.

He tripped over his own bag whilst getting out of the cab on a bus, hasn't broken it but won't be weight-bearing for a week or so.


Colleague is an idiot. Why on earth would you even consider stopping on that main road :confused:

There's even a sign saying its on the road to the right, underneath.

These were both part of my explaination to him. The only reason I would stop is if there was another vehicle waiting to turn to go across the crossing, thus blocking the road.
 
The only reasons the lights show in the direction of the main road is so they can be seen. There are no white lines on the road so no reason to stop.
 
The only reasons the lights show in the direction of the main road is so they can be seen. There are no white lines on the road so no reason to stop.

This really. It wouldn't make sense to halt the traffic for the entire road when the majority are likely continuing on. Just bad luck if you get stuck behind someone turning right.
 
I assume your colleague uses the bus because he doesn't drive, which would explain why he has no idea what he's on about.

The op said he tripped while getting out the cab, so I assume he drives a bus.
Still explains why he has no idea what he's on about though :p
 
I've actually been in a confusing situation when driving through Sheffield. There's a junction where you can go through red lights. First time I've ever come across it, and typically I was the first car. Saw the lights change to red, so I stopped. Suddenly everyone behind me started to beep, and some old bloke on a bike tapped on my window and said you need to go. Very weird! Never come across that before.

anyway, this isn't one of those situations....it's very clear!
 
You're correct, however that seems like a bit of a poorly designed junction, what happens if you're coming from across the level crossing wanting to turn into the main road and there's a constant stream of traffic? It doesn't look like there's enough space for even a single car to wait past the barrier
 
interesting google anyway http://abcrailwayguide.uk/kiveton-park-public-level-crossing-rotherham
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