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I guess that a sizeable chunk of U.K. citizens have had holidays to the Spanish Costas over the years, even if Spain has been put in the shade by destinations like Florida and the Caribbean of late.
Google tells me that British European Airways started flying us to Valencia around 1957, and by the onset of the sixties regular charter flights combining the trip, hotels, and transfers were being offered by Euravia, out of Manchester and Luton Airports.
My first Spanish trip, with my first wife and kids was circa 1972, and while I remember my wife making friends with a Belgian couple from Oostende, there were probably, (I guess), a sprinkling of Germans dipping their toes in the Med.
By the eighties, the Germans were a major consumer of holidays to the Costas, and anyone who walked around the bars of Malaga and Almeria would find a slew of German bars, with their flags proudly displayed, and Bundesliga teams featured on the bar’s TVs in the evening.
We all get along okay now, and I’ve stumbled through a bit of German in German bars, eating bratwurst or schinken, then asking for ‘die Rechnung bitte” when I want the bill, but I wonder if there were any near international incidents when Brits and Germans first found themselves in the same bars or beaches 15-20 years after shooting at each other in Europe?
 
As Fawlty Towers put it: Don't mention the war ! The world has moved on ffs.

Having been working with a German customer for nearly two years, the only points of "debate" seem to be Football and brexit (where as a remain voter I'm in agreement with them !). We are actually a lot more like the Germans than the red-tops would have you believe.
 
In the early 90s I went to Spain on a school trip. My very tall friend (for our age) got in a fight with a German tourist as he determined my friend to be big enough, and black enough, to take the punishment for us all being too noisy and spoiling his budget all inclusive experience.

So I can help us out for 1945 to about 1996. Can anyone beat me on that?
 
As Fawlty Towers put it: Don't mention the war ! The world has moved on ffs.

Having been working with a German customer for nearly two years, the only points of "debate" seem to be Football and brexit (where as a remain voter I'm in agreement with them !). We are actually a lot more like the Germans than the red-tops would have you believe.

I can agree with all that 100%, but I was just curious about were we all just as friendly together in the early days.
I had an occasion in Portugal in the 80s, when friends held me back from trying to clean some mouthy Brit’s clock for badmouthing France and the French, just as well, I may have got my *** kicked!
So I can imagine a drunk Brit in the 70s, feeling emboldened by lager, calling a German a kraut, and it maybe kicking off.
 
I can agree with all that 100%, but I was just curious about were we all just as friendly together in the early days.
I had an occasion in Portugal in the 80s, when friends held me back from trying to clean some mouthy Brit’s clock for badmouthing France and the French, just as well, I may have got my *** kicked!
So I can imagine a drunk Brit in the 70s, feeling emboldened by lager, calling a German a kraut, and it maybe kicking off.
You wanted to put your mouth on his what?
 
Jürgen the German has been Star Baker on GBBO twice in a row.

It’s revenge!
 
Jürgen the German has been Star Baker on GBBO twice in a row.

It’s revenge!

There used to be a German barman in The Angel pub, Bermondsey Wall East, on the river at Rotherhithe, his name was Dieter.
He was known as Herman the German by the regulars, one of the guys used to love saying to him, “Herman, two pints of bitter bitte!”
 
As a lad in the early 80s I went over to Hamburg with a few mates on a weekend booze cruise. After getting off the boat one of the group decided to shout out, "Hans, Hans, ve made it!!" in a passable German accent as he cleared the final customs check. This little quip cost him and another mate a three hour stay at the terminal and we were all questioned about it.
I'd long forgiven them for all for WWII, but this lack of humour was beyond the pale for me...



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Just got back from Germany and felt no bad feelings at all! On the contrary I've found every German I've ever dealt with to be preferable to most Brits.
 
As a lad in the early 80s I went over to Hamburg with a few mates on a weekend booze cruise. After getting off the boat one of the group decided to shout out, "Hans, Hans, ve made it!!" in a passable German accent as he cleared the final customs check. This little quip cost him and another mate a three hour stay at the terminal and we were all questioned about it.
I'd long forgiven them for all for WWII, but this lack of humour was beyond the pale for me...



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That's cos germanys gone full circle. The average citizen probably had more freedom of speech under the third reich xD
 
I'm not sure how long after WW2 but my grandparents went on holidays all over Europe soon after WW2, they have Cine film from their trips from 1950 onwards, never encountered any issues (sadly I think it is all ruined now :( some of it was awesome footage).

I've not mingled extensively with Germans abroad but most of them seem to just get on with life, shrug and move on, I'm sure there are some exceptions, it seems to be the British where a small but not negligible minority make a big deal about it and are usually quite obnoxious people in all other regards.
 
A bunch of my mates once tried the "Two world wars and one World Cup" thing on some KSK guys during an international exercise, once.
One of their bods just smiled and said, "Ja, true, but your Queen is German"..... Everyone (thankfully) shut up after that! :D
 
Just got back from Germany and felt no bad feelings at all! On the contrary I've found every German I've ever dealt with to be preferable to most Brits.

All tolerant of one another is only to be expected really, it’s 76 years since WW2 ended, and having a German daughter-in-law and two half German grandsons over there I’m in complete agreement with your assessment of Brits v Germans.
In my OP I was wondering if there were any mild xenophobic incidents when the citizens of both nations encountered each other in those early heady days of foreign holidays to Spain.
 
I remember my grandparents regularly holidaying to Spain in the 1980s. It was the start of it becoming a trend amongst holidaymakers.

I remember word got back about the topless women on the beaches :cool:

I also remember people talked of the towel wars between the Brits and Germans, were apparently they would race each other down early in the morning to get the best sun loungers, and each would put their towels on some of them to save them for their friends. But the 'other side' didn't like this, which resulted it some grabbing of towels. It sounds like it was just certain people of each group that would compete against each other.

I've not heard of that situation happening in years though. Probably because we're all more integrated and the war is so distant.

@Jean-F there is a good series that was shown on Sky TV, I think in the 90s called The Tourist Trap. It's on youtube somewhere. The programme invited a group of different nationalities to a venue and then setup situations to see if each group would react according to their stereotype. It was an interesting social experiment.

I found the first episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BmJni9bBOA
 
Sometimes you open a thread and you just have no idea what anyone is on about.

Anyway, Kasekrainer is the best. That's Austrian, tho. But it's freaking delicious.
 
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