New conservatory - solid or glass roof

looks great but the fact that you can build it under conservatory regs tells me that the regs are wrong as that is clearly not a conservatory!


Our neighbours put up an extension similar to that substation, when I asked them, how come we did not get a letter asking if we agreed with the proposal of the extension, they said it was a conservatory and not an extension so planning etc was not needed.

I immediately wrote to the local council planning dept, they sent a guy round to check it over, and then later wrote to our neighbours and told them to take it down immediately, because it did not meet their definition of a conservatory.

"Domestic conservatories are generally exempt from Building Control if the following applies:

1. Internal Floor area of less than 30m2.
2. Not less than 75% of it’s roof should be be glazed or made from translucent material.
3. Not less than 50% of it’s external walls should be glazed.
4. There should be separation (i.e. no permanent openings) between the conservatory and the rest of the property.
5. Safety glazing – as per the requirements of Part K, Schedule 1 - to be used in all critical areas.
6. Construction is at ground floor level.
7. If there is to be heating in this area it must have separate time and thermostatic control so that it can be isolated from the rest of the heating system."




If going for solid roof, OP should definitely check with the local council on their definitions of what is or is not allowed under their ideas of conservatory or Extension, better to be safe than sorry later.
 
The above is mostly spot on. Points 2 & 3 were changed/modified around 2010 I believe. Thermal efficiency became priority at a time when translucent materials could not provide it. Obviously, some councils may rule independently.
I actually got the council involved from the very beginning to cover myself, as I also knew someone who had built something then had to tear it down.
The local company provided me a plan of the proposed build. I used the planning portal to fill in all the documents, and sent everything to the council digitally.
Council sent a letter to all attaching neighbours for any objections, with 14 days to object.
Installers arranged for mandatory checks during build of foundations etc. Work had to be signed off once completed.
We have kept the patio door between the house and the substation (as its now being called :p).
It was a really simple process.
 
The above is mostly spot on. Points 2 & 3 were changed/modified around 2010 I believe. Thermal efficiency became priority at a time when translucent materials could not provide it. Obviously, some councils may rule independently.
I actually got the council involved from the very beginning to cover myself, as I also knew someone who had built something then had to tear it down.
The local company provided me a plan of the proposed build. I used the planning portal to fill in all the documents, and sent everything to the council digitally.
Council sent a letter to all attaching neighbours for any objections, with 14 days to object.
Installers arranged for mandatory checks during build of foundations etc. Work had to be signed off once completed.
We have kept the patio door between the house and the substation (as its now being called :p).
It was a really simple process.


I guess our council are still in the dark ages :P as that is still their criteria as of last June when the complaint went in, and still shows as their criteria on their website.
 
Our neighbours put up an extension similar to that substation, when I asked them, how come we did not get a letter asking if we agreed with the proposal of the extension, they said it was a conservatory and not an extension so planning etc was not needed.

I immediately wrote to the local council planning dept, they sent a guy round to check it over, and then later wrote to our neighbours and told them to take it down immediately, because it did not meet their definition of a conservatory.

"Domestic conservatories are generally exempt from Building Control if the following applies:

1. Internal Floor area of less than 30m2.
2. Not less than 75% of it’s roof should be be glazed or made from translucent material.
3. Not less than 50% of it’s external walls should be glazed.
4. There should be separation (i.e. no permanent openings) between the conservatory and the rest of the property.
5. Safety glazing – as per the requirements of Part K, Schedule 1 - to be used in all critical areas.
6. Construction is at ground floor level.
7. If there is to be heating in this area it must have separate time and thermostatic control so that it can be isolated from the rest of the heating system."




If going for solid roof, OP should definitely check with the local council on their definitions of what is or is not allowed under their ideas of conservatory or Extension, better to be safe than sorry later.


You're getting your wires crossed. Planning permission and Building Control approval are completely different things. The local planning department will not send someone who works in Building Control or comment on Building Control matters.

Conservatories AND extensions do not need planning permission as long as they meet these permitted development guidelines: https://ecab.planningportal.co.uk/uploads/miniguides/extensions/Extensions.pdf I am aware that by going for a solid roof, we are strictly speaking not having a conservatory built, but a single storey extension.

Conservatories do not Building Control approval (as per your quoted bit above) i.e. they don't need to meet Building Regulations.

Single storey extensions do need Building Control approval i.e. they need to meet Building Regulations.

In our case, we don't need planning permission, as we meet the guidelines to fall within permitted development, but we will meet Building Regulations.

Your neighbour may have fallen foul of Building Control, but not necessarily planning permission.


On a side note, third quote came back as £22k/£27k from Amazon, so we will proceed with them. Our neighbour behind, who as the same property layout as my parent's, had their "single storey extension/conservatory" built by Amazon in 2012, and they gave us Amazon's details. I've been in there to have a look, and feels perfectly nice. My parents first got the idea of the conservatory after lusting after theirs for a few years. Ours will be of similar size and appearance.
 
Even entertaining the idea of everest is bonkers.

At least you had a first hand recommendation in the end. I hope it works out well.

The glazing industry is very open to haggling so you could maybe have gotten it under 20k.
 
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Solid roof - even with blinds glass roof will be regretted. Go for a proper extension tbh - I don't know why conservatories are even a thing - I've put up with mine for the best part of 30 years - it's unusable apart from a few days a year when the temperature and sunlight are exactly right for it! Handy for growing tomatoes though :D
 
We did go with Amazon in the end, with a solid roof. Foundations have been poured, after some unexpected drainage alterations which needed Building Control approval.
 
Hi there DB SamX
I am just going through exactly the same dilema as your post re tiled roof or glass roof on a proposed conservatory. I would love to hear what you decided upon & how did everything turn out? Including the living with it through winter & summer. I have a south facing garden. I am thinking tiled roof, hubby wants a glass roof. If we go for a glass roof we 100% would need the facility of blinds on the roof & the option of closed or open so electric blinds I think a must as I beleive the glare of the sun even in October / November could be a problem for a good few hours during the day let alone the height of summer as a south facing garden.
I would love to hear what you decided upon & how it has worked out. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I may end up getting more sleep once my mind is sure .... HELP . Look forward to hearing from you..
P.S. Our quote for the glass roof is with a UV coating. Conservatory 3m x 4.3m.
 
Hi DB SamX
I didn't see all the messages and have just noticed that you said you went with a solid roof.
Is it a tiled roof? I would still really appreciate your views on my 1st post. Thank you so much. Look forward to hearing from you.
 
Hi there DB SamX
I am just going through exactly the same dilema as your post re tiled roof or glass roof on a proposed conservatory. I would love to hear what you decided upon & how did everything turn out? Including the living with it through winter & summer. I have a south facing garden. I am thinking tiled roof, hubby wants a glass roof. If we go for a glass roof we 100% would need the facility of blinds on the roof & the option of closed or open so electric blinds I think a must as I beleive the glare of the sun even in October / November could be a problem for a good few hours during the day let alone the height of summer as a south facing garden.
I would love to hear what you decided upon & how it has worked out. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I may end up getting more sleep once my mind is sure .... HELP . Look forward to hearing from you..
P.S. Our quote for the glass roof is with a UV coating. Conservatory 3m x 4.3m.

We went with a solid roof and very happy with it now - although my mum now wishes it was bigger. The roof is tiled.

Having a solid roof does mean temperature fluctuations is less than a glass roof. In summer it gets warm during the day, and toasty in the evening, but not too hot. During winter, it stays cool (not cold), and enough to go in and out of. When we do use the conservatory for sit-down dinners occasionally, we turn on the electric heating. We don't leave the heating on in there all the time - it's not connected to the house's main gas hearing, just separately electric heaters mounted to the wall. It's been perfectly fine last winter for Christmas dinners, etc.
 
Mum replaced her lean to conservatory triple carb roof with a rubberised fully insulated flat roof (3m x 7m) and it has taken their conservatory from being a freezing / boiling almost unliveable (50%) of the year room to an all year round very useable space. It takes a bit of heating in winter with 2 of the 4 walls being totally windowed, but it never gets cold or overly hot in there, its now a great room that she sews in (great natural light).
 
If it falls under the "conservatory" regs, we had a metrotile lightweight roof which has proved fabulous. Does not cook in summer and easy to heat in winter, with a small oil filled rad.
If its an "extension", things get a little more complicated and a lot more expensive.
For comparison, we paid 15k for a 4.1m x 3.6m conservatory.

Do you know how much just the roof was? I'm assuming it wasn't 15k just for the roof?
 
Thank you very much all for your replies. Really helpful.
I will be back in touch with some more questions I am sure when i get a moment to digest. (Sister has arrived from France for a week first time in 20 months so a bit of socialising to be done ) Shall get my conservatory head back on in a week. In the meantime anymore tips if they spring to mind would be really appreciated. Many thanks.
 
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