I think Intel sees lots of money to be made. However 3 players in a market will force them to compete, usually that means price or quality of product.
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GPU price war
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I think Intel sees lots of money to be made. However 3 players in a market will force them to compete, usually that means price or quality of product.
Sorry, are you saying £2299 was a reasonable price but £2969 is crazy? I remembering arguing with similar posts in recent history that ~£800 was crazy pricing.
The PC hardware enthusiast community has been a frog slowly boiling alive these past 5 years.
My point remains the same; don't blame the company's, blame the consumer.
Nope - blame the companies and the consumers. The companies are greedy and the consumers are stupid.
I don't make many posts but came across this article yesterday which may explain in some part why the already overpriced cards have been pushed even further in price and stock is running even lower than normal, how much truth in the article well that's for you to decide
https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/nvidia-halts-ampere-production-to-keep-pricing-high
https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/nvidia-halts-ampere-production-to-keep-pricing-high
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No they won't, there's no way prices are going back to anything like sanity, precedents have been set, people have shown what they will pay for GPU's. AMD/NV/Intel aren't leaving that money on the table.
Affordable PC gaming is finished.
No I was only using the prices as example, I know the RTX 3090 was somewhere in the prices range of £1600. But I missed my chance of getting one in 2020 and when I was look for one this year the prices went up to £2,299 to £2,969.99 in quick time and now £3,000 way too much money on just one card PNY not the graphic card I want and don't like the company or it's name I was looking for EVEA/AORUS brand
I build my rig every five years but was put back because money & pandemic
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As people lost there life's & jobs during the pandemic, But when the world governments slowed the market the business world took much evil turn with there partners to cover there profit year during pandemic, Nvidia & AMD known this would happen and by slowing down the GPU market was hoping to rise the prices too on goods and by doing so have proved to themselves the consumer but not all consumers is willing to pay the price up to £3,500 for GPU today and it will still get worst.
Thanks for the link
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Shortage and overpricing has been here pretty much since pandemic hit, not sure what is going to magically happen in 2022 unless there is a planetary wide ban on crypto currency for all legit purposes (Which should happen, would be immensely funny and satisfying)
Also third parties charging £300+ from FE cards for basically a custom fan is taking the mick as well.
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Everyone says AMD/NV/Intel are to blame. But their financial results tell a different story.
In 2018 Nvidia were making 37.21% net profit. Now in 2021, Nvidia are making 33.36% net profit. That's a reduction in their margin.
Gigabyte net margin is up 650% since 2018
Asus net margin is up 369% since 2018
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And?
I lol at the, just wait till next gen/next year comments, everything will magically be fine again.
No it won't.
I'd love, to be proven wrong, believe me.
There is a bigger picture at play here, yes covid/brixit/mining have expedited things, but there are underlying factors that are not going to go away.
If mining drops off a cliff we will get some respite, but things wont go back to "normal", they probably never will now.
No it won't.
I'd love, to be proven wrong, believe me.
There is a bigger picture at play here, yes covid/brixit/mining have expedited things, but there are underlying factors that are not going to go away.
If mining drops off a cliff we will get some respite, but things wont go back to "normal", they probably never will now.
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The outside pressures don't matter as much now as people have shown how much they will pay for GPU's and that's where the next gen bar will be set.
"People have shown how much they will pay" *under the current circumstances.*
For instance: GPU's that can print money are worth a lot more than GPU's that can't.
If we get to a point where GPU's can no longer print money, (or print much less at least) the price "people are willing to pay" will look a lot different.
for a 10 year old they are living in a different world to most normal people to start with
intel also seem to be better with supply
How? They are made at the same fabs as all the rest and are at the back of the queue for supply
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As people lost there life's & jobs during the pandemic, But when the world governments slowed the market the business world took much evil turn with there partners to cover there profit year during pandemic, Nvidia & AMD known this would happen and by slowing down the GPU market was hoping to rise the prices too on goods and by doing so have proved to themselves the consumer but not all consumers is willing to pay the price up to £3,500 for GPU today and it will still get worst.
Thanks for the link
lol tin foil hat brigade in full force i see.
there is a silicone / chip shortage. AMD and nvidia didn't slow anything down. Do you think MS and Sony would just sit back and accept that?
