The English Channel

[thenewoc]

French police are watching them get in the dinghy and go on the beach how is this happening?

Because it's not a priority to France to be too successful in stopping it from happening as it would be France's problem to deal with and for them to negotiate with the EU on sharing the numbers out between themselves of which most don't want them.

 

[thenewoc]

We have a bigger population than France. Neither is three times our land mass.

That's cos we've already allowed too many in.

 

[cheesyboy]

That's cos we've already allowed too many in.

France has dealt with far more asylum seekers in the past couple of decades than we have

 

[Uther]

France has dealt with far more asylum seekers in the past couple of decades than we have

Have the ones crossing the channel been thrown out of France?

 

[thenewoc]

France has dealt with far more asylum seekers in the past couple of decades than we have

It's not a competition on who has more. The EU should be dealing with the issue rather than looking the other way in hope that they will pass through to being someone else's problem. Most of these people are not asylum seekers, they're economic migrants that are using the asylum system as a loop hole to cherry picking their destination.

 

[cheesyboy]

Have the ones crossing the channel been thrown out of France?

I'd imagine they generally haven't applied for asylum there

 

[potatolord]

In all cases where you want to be processed as an asylum seekers, yes.

So, you're proposing a system where you wouldn't need travel documentation if you intend to claim asylum?

Is that a serious proposal?

 

[VincentHanna]

As we have a UK border check in France thanks to the Juxtaposed controls, surely the best way would be to set up an asylum processing centre there and then they don't have to risk their lives to come here.

The majority do get asylum, so they are mostly genuine claimants.

 

[thenewoc]

I'd imagine they generally haven't applied for asylum there

Or anywhere else they've passed through, or indeed the 26 countries of the EU so they're a pretty picky lot.

 

[cheesyboy]

It's not a competition on who has more. The EU should be dealing with the issue rather than looking the other way in hope that they will pass through to being someone else's problem. Most of these people are not asylum seekers, they're economic migrants that are using the asylum system as a loop hole to cherry picking their destination.

2/3rds of asylum applications in the UK result in some form of asylum being granted, per an article in the Independent today. So most are clearly legit.

And we were talking about who takes how many because @robfosters claimed we were getting so many because we were considered a soft touch, when in fact we take a fraction of France and Germany.

 

[Uther]

I'd imagine they generally haven't applied for asylum there

Is France such a war torn hell hole? We'd best prepare for the dinghys full of Europeans trying to escape the place.

 

[Uther]

So, you're proposing a system where you wouldn't need travel documentation if you intend to claim asylum?

Is that a serious proposal?

Sounds like a great idea for all our pensioners that want to move to Spain but can't because of brexit.

 

[thenewoc]

2/3rds of asylum applications in the UK result in some form of asylum being granted, per an article in the Independent today. So most are clearly legit.

And we were talking about who takes how many because @robfosters claimed we were getting so many because we were considered a soft touch, when in fact we take a fraction of France and Germany.

The 2/3rds argument could be because they've also been coached by various charities on how to apply and have made false applications that are difficult to disprove.

 

[cheesyboy]

Is France such a war torn hell hole? We'd best prepare for the dinghys full of Europeans trying to escape the place.

France fields three times the applications we do.

For some, the UK will be the better destination for them: family links, language, cultural history (former colonies for example).

 

[Fatboy123]

The EU should be dealing with the issue rather than looking the other way.

Isn't that the problem though..... People have 100% decided that they want to come to the UK regardless of the EU.

 

[cheesyboy]

So, you're proposing a system where you wouldn't need travel documentation if you intend to claim asylum?

Is that a serious proposal?

Of course. Stopping an asylum seekers getting to claim asylum because they have no documentation is insane.

 

[Uther]

France fields three times the applications we do.

For some, the UK will be the better destination for them: family links, language, cultural history (former colonies for example).

OK, and pulling a figure out of my ****, what about the other 99%?

 

[Roar87]

Or anywhere else they've passed through, or indeed the 26 countries of the EU so they're a pretty picky lot.

It's super weird how people won't accept the fact that people are illegally migrating here because they want to live and work in the UK without applying for a Visa, not because their country of origin is unsafe. I mean I accept the fact that their home countries are **** holes, but let's not pretend they're Jews escaping Nazi Germany at the threat of death camps, that's simply not the case.

 

[thenewoc]

Sounds like a great idea for all our pensioners that want to move to Spain but can't because of brexit.

Yes legit tourist can only stay up to 90 days but illegal entry can stay unlimited or have a blind eye turned to breaking the law and crossing out of France's border with no checks.

 

[cheesyboy]

Sounds like a great idea for all our pensioners that want to move to Spain but can't because of brexit.

Is this the level of anti-asylum thinking? UK pensioners claiming asylum to move to Spain.