Rescue upgrade advice (AMD > Intel) ~£500-750

TreeUK

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I've been having what seem like CPU safety restarts and regular mobo failing to POST with a CPU fail with an AMD 7 3700X and MSI x570 Tomahawk WIFI in the last few weeks. It's on the latest stable BIOS and chipset, flashing to the latest beta drivers didn''t fix anything.

I've done some research and it seems like it's an uncommon but known complaint of some boards with AMD CPUs of most generations.

This was my first foray into AMD and rather than continue debugging I'm looking to swap back to Intel. Yeah... maybe more money than sense but life is short and time is money.

I'm a gamer and occasional game developer with a VR focus atm

I've currently got:
GPU: AMD RX 6900XT
SSD: 1 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £109.99
RAM: 2 x Team Group 8Pack RIPPED Edition 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C14 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black
Case: 1 x Fractal Design Define 7 Mid-Tower Case - Gunmetal Grey Light Tint Tempered Glass= £139.99
Heat sink: 1 x Arctic Liquid Freezer II High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 280mm= £94.99

I'm looking to get the most bang for buck for ~£500-£750 that's an upgrade on the previous combo.

Here's my current basket, would be great to get some feedback:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £614.94 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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NOTE: I'm slightly concerned the water cooler won't fit this mobo's layout.

or bumping up towards £750, not sure how much different the motherboard vs CPU is but this bumps the CPU to an I9.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £769.93 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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I would really appreciate any feedback, alternatives and advice.
 
If you're trying to run memory at XMP, that would be my first guess for cause of instability.
Four DIMMs in daisy chain topology board isn't good recipe for the tightest latencies.
 
EsaT said:
If you're trying to run memory at XMP, that would be my first guess for cause of instability.
Four DIMMs in daisy chain topology board isn't good recipe for the tightest latencies.
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Literally everything running stock BIOS settings, no XMP, no Game boost. RAM is set to 2400MHz by default in the BIOS and 3600MHz when you use XMP, tried with it on, off, off but manually set. Off but with only 2 sticks, off with the other two sticks.
CPU-wise even at bios is runs at ~1.48V, if you run stress tests you see a constant voltage but leave it idling on the desktop and over time it basically hits ~1.5V and seems to panic restart.
 
Pretty hard to pin point the root problem with what you have described, xmp on or off didn't make a difference, try locking the processor to 4ghz and setting the voltage to 1.275v and report back.
 
It won’t POST anymore so I’m past being able to try things, I’ve just cleaned and packed everything away.

Would be great to get feedback on the upgrade bundle instead, is it worth going with the cheaper Intel CPU and spending more on the mobo? What about WI-FI mobo versions vs an adapter?
 
@mickyflinn the MSI x570 Tomahawk-AMD issue is a pretty fresh wound, I know Intel has far better support but any other good alternatives? or am I wrong in worrying lightning will strike twice with MSI?
 
Went for it, then checked the MSI_Gaming Subreddit and looks like there might be a few similar issues, cross everything for me!
 
Journey said:
So what have you done with the X570, RMA'd it?
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Not yet, I’m not sure RMA’ing will find anything on either. I’m assuming it’s a specific combination that’s to blame.
I was thinking of just selling both mobo and CPU on independently at a hefty loss, what would you do here @Journey?

Currently waiting on an LGA1700 adapter for the Arctic Liquid Cooler II.
 
TreeUK said:
Not yet, I’m not sure RMA’ing will find anything on either. I’m assuming it’s a specific combination that’s to blame.
I was thinking of just selling both mobo and CPU on independently at a hefty loss, what would you do here @Journey?

Currently waiting on an LGA1700 adapter for the Arctic Liquid Cooler II.
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Personally, I'd RMA the CPU to AMD first. It'll cost you nothing to do, and they'll collect if form you and send you a new one if they agree to the return. Just explain the fault and put the emphasis on the CPU causing the issue not the BIOS etc.

Or send them to me and I'll take a look at them. :)
 
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