Is this going to be our generations 1970s

2004typer

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With all the pressures in society at the moment, with the Ukraine crisis, inflation rising, daft house prices, energy costs etc....

Are we running into a disaster?

Personally, the outlook is slightly bleak, I'm going to keep working as hard as I can, and my role is still very much in demand, but external factors beyond my control could change this very quickly.

Are we heading to power cuts, 3 day working weeks and generally more poverty etc......and potentially war.

I might be ignorant to all of this, born in 1980, some of the older members (and I'm not a spring chicken) will have more insight..... but is the impending the test of our current generation?
 
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They/Them may struggle to cope if people continue to ignore woke culture..

What are the pronouns of the Russian soldiers? Not that they'd pick up a gun to fight, those things are dangerous don't you know..
 
The world's gone mad........I despise the fact that we've got a nutcase on the loose (i.e. Putin) with the power to potentially end the world.

I might be diverting away from the main thread on this, but there is definitely a discussion to be had about the potential of humanity (albeit we are very self destructive), but I'm afraid we won't get there.

Selfishly, all I want to do is get on with my life like all of us, without the threat of impending doom.

I can live with more severe weather etc....while we sort out **** out (if we can), but I think short of humans actually getting along were all ultimately ****"d.
 
I stepped into this thread, thinking that I have mistakenly gone onto Mumsnet instead of Overclockers!

Mumsnet said the exact same thing 2 years ago at the start of the pandemic, saying that corona virus will push us back by 50 years to the 1970s.

No we're not going back 50 years.

Also, I'm not sure about the comparisons between Putin and Hitler that I've been reading. I would say that what's going on at the moment is closer to what Saddam Hussain would have done.
 
The rest of the world want what the west has, wealth and until that happens there will be conflict.. The trouble is the west also needs to remain a world power or someone else will take over..

People complain about the west but that just shows you how free we are, they'd never get away with their level of freedom in China.
 
Mickie said:
The rest of the world want what the west has, wealth and until that happens there will be conflict.. The trouble is the west also needs to remain a world power or someone else will take over..

People complain about the west but that just shows you how free we are, they'd never get away with their level of freedom in China.
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I think you've hit the nail on the head, inequality is a massive issue, and until we resolve that jealousy will rear it's head.

In an ideal world we all need equality, but how we get there I have no idea.
 
2004typer said:
I think you've hit the nail on the head, inequality is a massive issue, and until we resolve that jealousy will rear it's head.

In an ideal world we all need equality, but how we get there I have no idea.
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Capitalism doesn't allow for equality, because equality results in inflation. I'm not suggesting a better alternative, but it literally isn't possible with capitalism.
 
Devrij said:
Capitalism doesn't allow for equality, because equality results in inflation. I'm not suggesting a better alternative, but it literally isn't possible with capitalism.
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Yep something I have always tried to explain, even if we by some miracle have zero cost increase, zero wage increase, shareholders will always want to beat the previous year profit, which of course generates inflation.

Capitalism only really works because money is pumped into the system and because of the credit system.

Whenever lending gets tightened up, a recession happens.
 
There was nothing wrong with the 1970's, the bits I remember anyhow. Born in 1952, I was 18 in 1970 and 27 when it ended tragically too soon and we had the 1980's thrust upon us.
We had cool clothes, cooler girls and the coolest music of all time. Some dope that got you high without killing you and the beer was cheap and plentiful.
In '74 I moved up north for work and have stayed around the northwest my whole life since then, i was never out of work. I would not swap the 1970's for another decade even if I was guaranteed to live 10 years longer to attain it.
 
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There was nothing wrong with the 1970's, the bits I remember anyhow. Born in 1952, I was 18 in 1970 and 27 when it ended tragically too soon and we had the 1980's thrust upon us.
We had cool clothes, cooler girls and the coolest music of all time. Some dope that got you high without killing you and the beer was cheap and plentiful.
In '74 I moved up north for work and have stayed around the northwest my whole life since then, i was never out of work. I would not swap the 1970's for another decade even if I was guaranteed to live 10 years longer to attain it.
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The seventies were good, no denying it, the sixties were even better, but I only found that out when successive TV documentaries told me so, and added that if I remembered the sixties I wasn’t there.
I was there alright, I don’t remember all of it, but I vaguely remember coming out of St. Crispin’s church in Bermondsey in 1961, and everyone throwing confetti at me, (and the beautiful girl in white with me), my first born in 1963, my second in 1966, and the beautiful girl divorcing me in 1969.
Then the fun really started, it wasn’t always great, but it’s pretty good right now.
 
Well as the quote says "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times"

Such is the circle of our societies. I leave it to the reader to decide which of the 4 stages we came from, which we are in and which it then means we are headed to next.
 
Well the 1970's still generally had people having a better standard of living than their forebears, whatever is happening to today's working populace is unique.
 
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Also, I'm not sure about the comparisons between Putin and Hitler that I've been reading. I would say that what's going on at the moment is closer to what Saddam Hussain would have done.
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Whatever the parallels - he seems to be diverging further and further from any rationale... we are entering very concerning times.
 
Rroff said:
Whatever the parallels - he seems to be diverging further and further from any rationale... we are entering very concerning times.
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I'm with Rroff on this, there's no benchmark to compare where we are now and probably won't be one again. The hard men / good times thing is a complete load of balls, good and bad times don't fluctuate along generation lines, bad times can happen in an instant or the blink of an eye. I'm nearly 50 and have been through several good and bad times, on average every 10 years but good and bad is subjective.

The whole thing is utterly messed up but seemingly driven by small pockets on the fringe who are given disproportionate levels of media coverage and or unbridled access to social media which leads groups of people to start to not understand the world they live in and distrusting their neighbours, then comes conspiracy.

Some very clever people with not great motives have weaponised this human flaw to get them into positions of power or create environments that are beneficial to themselves. It's been happening for years but In an isolated fashion, until social media.

in the words of Roger Waters, we've entertained ourselves to death.

Beyond that I have no answers, other than I believe we've passed the point of no return.
 
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i remember the 70s been awesome as a kid, outdoor life skateboarding ,cant remember hardship ,my parents house was only £1000 and he was a college lecturer with mega holidays and we had proper snow.
 
People having continually shown their ingenuity and creativity during difficult times. We would have been much better off economically with trump in charge of America also. The economic leaders want all this carnage, they want to crash the economy, it's part of this 'Grwat Reset' plan they have.
 
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People having continually shown their ingenuity and creativity during difficult times. We would have been much better off economically with trump in charge of America also. The economic leaders want all this carnage, they want to crash the economy, it's part of this 'Grwat Reset' plan they have.
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Spending all your time on Facebook participating in group conspiracy theory circle-jerks is neither ingenious nor creative.
 
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