Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I'm astonished at how poorly the russian army are performing they don't look like a modern offensive force to me more like a ragtag bunch of amateurs less a precision fighting force and more a blunt force trauma when they can't take something by skill they just bludgeon it to death by hitting it with indiscrimate missile blasts if it won't fall by conventional small arms due to incompetence reduce the place to a smoking pile of rubble.

Maybe its time to think the unthinkable and launch a strike force and take out Putin directly. Yeah pie in the sky/keyboard warrior guff I know.

I think partly they are not going in prepared for war. It seems like they were told to go in for either a peacekeeping mission where there are small pockets of "nazi" will fight them but the locals will welcome them as heroes to liberate them. It's a bit of a shock when old men and women comes out unarmed confronting them to go home. Then they wondered why they were sent there in the first place.

On top of the massive logistical challenges to supply an army that size for what has been months, through winter. I bet also many of them have families in places they are heading into now and just feels strange attacking friends of friends. Yet they have to keep going forward.
 
US Official: There Is Some Evidence That Russia Lost Some Combat Aircraft During the Invasion.
Us Official: Russia Has Not Employed Its Complete Range of Electronic Warfare Weapons, but There Has Been Some Jamming at the Local Level.
Belarus’ Pres. Lukashenko: No Belarus Military Forces Have Left Bases, but the Country Might Mobilise in 2–3 Days If There Is a Threat. – RIA.


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https://twitter.com/idreesali114/status/1498692841027129345
https://twitter.com/phildstewart/status/1498693850113658881
https://twitter.com/AllawiSsemanda/status/1498694274745085957
 
I think partly they are not going in prepared for war. It seems like they were told to go in for either a peacekeeping mission where there are small pockets of "nazi" will fight them but the locals will welcome them as heroes to liberate them. It's a bit of a shock when old men and women comes out unarmed confronting them to go home. Then they wondered why they were sent there in the first place.

On top of the massive logistical challenges to supply an army that size for what has been months, through winter. I bet also many of them have families in places they are heading into now and just feels strange attacking friends of friends. Yet they have to keep going forward.

Totally, mostly sane people don't want to fight*
WW etc is different, defending someone attacking you and fighting is different to being the aggressor

*Some people have the ability to do so and can internally reconcile the position. Being a UK forces person for example you know its very very unlikely you would be on the "bad" side of any conflict.
 
Theres no real way to get all of them, land AND sea based, it only takes a few out of thousands to be able to still be launched and it would be adios Terra

I think a couple of hundred would be worst kind of level.
Enough to cause significant initial strike damage, but worse seriously affect weather, habitable land etc Would likely lead to lots of other nation on nation action afterwards
 
I guess we can't see the subs then.. Back to the war room I go.

I mean they will not be the most silent of things in the world and a chance exists that the UK and US are following some, but it's doubtful. The only time they will be seen is if they run out of food onboard and need to come home, or when the missile breaches the surface.
 
I was going to google how do you disable a submarine with nukes on board :p
Tbf there is a great book called Good Strategy/Bad Strategy. It talks about the epic out manoeuvring the yanks did in Kuwait. They asked where they got such epic strategies from. He said the published manual on the internet for US approved military strategies :cry:
 
Does anyone on here remember back to the 80's when the Cold War was still going strong? Were Russia as confrontational, bullish and just plain deluded back then? I'm guessing reporting would be a lot different and much much less access to information.
I was too young to have taken much notice back then. I do remember being aware of Russia's nuclear weapons back then, and that they were very very bad. Being so young when I learned about them, it meant little to me though.

No not really the years under Brezhnev were years of stagnation if you want a comparison to today it'd be something like the Cuban Missile Crisis of the '60's but that was before my time. If anything it was America that was the beligerent party they were always paranoid about "reds under the bed" but it reached something of a crescendo in the years before the Berlin Wall fell it got to the point where you worried they would start something against the soviets all by themselves.

Information was very hard to come whole cities like Gorky were basically closed to westerners and elsewhere information and reporting were extremely restricted basically there was Tass and that was about it the USSR was basically an unknown/other place
 
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