Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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dunker said:
so these sanctions against these oligarchs washing their money in london, arn't going to
be legal for 18 months. this is fine and in no way corrupt of our british government and
our legal system.
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Have you got a source for this?
 
I think we should be doing more.

If we not willing to now because of fear of nukes, then thats not going to change if a NATO country gets attacked regardless of treaty obligations.

Feels like WW2 been replayed. We stay out of it, then Romania or another country nearby is next.
 
0007 said:
*Abramovich: Taken the Decision to Sell Chelsea Football Club

Sources:
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGolazo/status/1499086573014556684
https://twitter.com/CfcSheikh/status/1499086677582782467
https://twitter.com/Rover829/status/1499086645848645635
https://twitter.com/Newsquawk/status/1499086675414241289
https://twitter.com/SamWallaceTel/status/1499086877386805252 - "incredibly difficult decision to make ... it pains me to part with the club in this manner". He says that profits from sale will be donated to charitable foundation
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He wants £4 billion for the club :eek::eek::eek:
 
Thekwango said:
so it's a 'what's yours is your wifes and what's your wifes is not yours' kind of relationship! :p
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It’s not on thread but my wife’s SIL is an absolute diamond of a person, and I’d really love to have her as a sister but the fact remains that she’s my BILs wife, and no relation at all to me, unfortunately :(
 
0007 said:
*Abramovich: Taken the Decision to Sell Chelsea Football Club

Sources:
https://twitter.com/CBSSportsGolazo/status/1499086573014556684
https://twitter.com/CfcSheikh/status/1499086677582782467
https://twitter.com/Rover829/status/1499086645848645635
https://twitter.com/Newsquawk/status/1499086675414241289
https://twitter.com/SamWallaceTel/status/1499086877386805252 - "incredibly difficult decision to make ... it pains me to part with the club in this manner". He says that profits from sale will be donated to charitable foundation
https://twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1499087231583244290 - "In the current situation, I have therefore taken the decision to sell the Club"
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Wonder if he's trying to do a runner before he's sanctioned. His London properties are up for sale too...
 
chrcoluk said:
I think we should be doing more.

If we not willing to now because of fear of nukes, then thats not going to change if a NATO country gets attacked regardless of treaty obligations.

Feels like WW2 been replayed. We stay out of it, then Romania or another country nearby is next.
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NATO are not going to be attacked it would be suicide to do so. Ukraine has been supplied and funded pretty well up to this point. Remember they are not being given any of this, at some point they are going to receive the bill.
 
Doobedoo said:
NATO are not going to be attacked it would be suicide to do so.
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You are assuming there would be a response, I am not convinced of that.

We were obliged to respond when Poland got attacked in WW2, and what happened.

You think we would respond if Russia says, if you respond I will nuke you?
 
0007 said:
*The United States Is to Extend Russia’s Export Control Policies to Belarus.
*The US Is to Put Full Blocking Sanctions on Russian Defense Entities – Source.
*The US Is to Block 22 Russian Defence-Related Entities.
*The US Is to Impose Export Controls Targeting Russia Oil Refining.
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*White House: The United States Will Impose Controls on Technology Exports Aimed at the Oil Refining Industry.
*White House: The US Is Targeting Entities That Provide Military Support to Russia and Belarus.

*European Regulators Are Preparing for the Potential Closure of Russia’s VTB Bank in Europe – Sources.
*VTB’s European Arm Is Being Closely Monitored by Regulators, but No Final Decision Has Been Made – Source.

Source:
https://twitter.com/ReutersGMF/status/1499088296500031489
https://twitter.com/FGoria/status/1499089336431697928


 
Uther said:
Wonder if he's trying to do a runner before he's sanctioned. His London properties are up for sale too...
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I believe the tories gave him notice to sell everything before he get sanctioned. Thats what hundreds of thousands of pounds to the tory party gets you, fair warning.
 
chrcoluk said:
You are assuming there would be a response, I am not convinced of that.

We were obliged to respond when Poland got attacked in WW2, and what happened.

You think we would respond if Russia says, if you respond I will nuke you?
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I keep asking, what is Putin going to use to attack and hold all these countries as he marches across Europe?

The Ukrainians are showing the absolute joke that is the Russian infantry and army.

NATO and the EU called his bluff on invasion and lost. The price is Putin takes Ukraine.
 
chrcoluk said:
You are assuming there would be a response, I am not convinced of that.

We were obliged to respond when Poland got attacked in WW2, and what happened.

You think we would respond if Russia says, if you respond I will nuke you?
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So what is the point in Nato? Why is it so heavily funded if it’s not there to defend its members. I know the US makes a shed load of money from Nato expansion and the commitment it’s member have agreed to.
If these countries are so afraid of Russia why the need to spend the money. Might as well say sod it they can just nuke us.
 
Hagar said:
Have you got a source for this?
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It was raised in Prime Ministers Questions today although the 18 months refers to identifying property owners.


Under the government's Economic Crime Bill, a register will force anonymous foreign owners of UK property to reveal their identities to prevent criminals hiding behind secretive shell companies.

Sir Keir said Labour would help vote through the long-awaited legislation on Monday "at speed", but he said it would not come into force for existing property owners like Shuvalov for 18 months.

"At best, that's Autumn 2023. Far too long for the Ukrainian people. Why are we giving Putin's cronies 18 months to quietly launder their money out of the UK property market and into another safe haven?"

He also called for measures to be added to the bill to overhaul Companies House - where directors register companies - to deter criminals from setting up shell firms.

Mr Johnson said he was happy to work with Labour next week to "strengthen and accelerate the package of measures" in the bill.

He also suggested, in response to a question from Conservative MP Bob Seely, that law firms representing oligarchs with links to Putin could "face sanctions".

Mr Seely claimed law firms "intimidate into silence" those who would investigate offshore money flows, including the media or "even the National Crime Agency".

"Does the prime minister understand this is how state corruption happens and this is systemic, planned subversion?," asked the Isle of Wight MP.

Mr Johnson said law firms were reminded on 23 February of the "need to comply with sanctions regulations and legislation," adding: "Clearly they will face sanctions if they fail to do so."

Labour MP Chris Bryant. who has led calls for Roman Abramovich to be sanctioned, also named a series of individuals at Prime Minister's Questions.

"We are not even sanctioning Sergey Shoygu, the Russian defence minister, yet. Nor Igor Osipov, the commander of the Black Sea fleet," said the chairman of the Commons standards committee.

He added: "Why don't we use parliamentary privilege to get this out there so the lawyers can't attack the sanctions that we must surely bring, rapidly, today?"
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60587157

It was also discussed on Politics Live beforehand how some of the other sanctions will take weeks if not months to take force and in that time assets can be moved.
 
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