They are levelling whole areas knowing full well there will be huge collateral loss of life. There's nothing targeted about it and I don't believe Ukraine used anything near so heavy or for so prolonged in Donbass (which was tit-for-tat by both sides).
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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They are levelling whole areas knowing full well there will be huge collateral loss of life. There's nothing targeted about it and I don't believe Ukraine used anything near so heavy or for so prolonged in Donbass (which was tit-for-tat by both sides).
Unfortunately not the case. Here is the website https://200rf.com/.
Website is created by the ministry of internal affairs of Ukraine.
There are many videos of Russian POWs taken by Ukrainian solders (which are not nice as you can imagine) and then by internal groups within Ukrainian internal affairs ministry, where POWs are treated better. It's essentially official stance of Ukraine to publish as much videos of POWs as possible to motivate Russian public to prevent this war.
Donbas shelling of civilians so far lasted for almost 8 years but yes, from my knowledge not to the same extreme degree and firepower as videos coming out of Ukraine right now.
Yes, because of the fear of Russia hiding it's losses. Which they do, all the time.
POW videos do nothing to show true scale of Russian losses.
Your point was that it's the soldiers that tape POW and that officials within Ukraine would not allow it yet I showed you that your view was incorrect.
You do not need to justify Ukrainian actions. They are very much understandable. I am just correcting wrong information.
Edit: Btw Russia is doing the same thing, there are plenty of videos of Ukrainian POW
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They're shelling apartment buildings and hospitals?
What do you think they were expecting to happen
That is disgraceful!
A regular car driving normally been fired upon is bad but could be forgiven as a mistake during war.
But they just keep firing even though they are screaming stop, press, journalist.
You’d think considering the screaming and no returning of fire from said vehicle they might get the clue they are just civilians but nope they just keep firing.
Thankfully they were super lucky and the body armour worked.
I'm no expert when it comes to markets, but I'd imagine its a reaction to the Russians saying they wont open trading before the 9th?
It's not a difficult concept to grasp. I doubt they they were targeting civilians. I think they were targeting military target and some and in some cases all shells hit civilians because bombardment is not exactly a hard science. In any case we obviously can't say one way or the other so perhaps my view is wrong but i just cannot see any reason for the Russian military to specifically target civilians. I can believe their lack of care about collateral but that's not the same thing is it.
That may account for a small amount of the attacks against civilians, but not all. I think its more a case of the dont give a **** what they hit. Its indiscriminate.
I dont know the accuracy behind the reports but there were some suggesting the Russians are working off of old maps where some residential buildings were previously military/governmental, which may also account for a small amount of civilians targeted. However I do feel the majority of Civilians hit have been just pure indiscriminate fires.
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There's enough footage of civilian vehicles complete with dead occupants found shot to pieces by Russian military, there's even footage of it actually happening not just the result afterwards. What intent do you doubt about the Russians shooting civilian vehicles ?
It's semantics. At the very best, giving them the absolute benefit of the doubt they're blowing up and targeting whole grid areas and buildings that could hide enemy that threaten their troops. Regardless of whether there's any there or not. That's little solace to the civilians hiding in or under those buildings - they're just as dead.
Now, given the number of cases of civilians also being targeted in cars I'm more inclined to not give them the absolute benefit of the doubt for an awful lot of this stuff. Instead I think they're trying to terrorise and break the local populace with heavy artillery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAiHXj6GB6Q&ab_channel=FireStreetFights
They're firing tanks at residential buildings. What other intent could there be?
Edit: T72 tanks, which seem to make up the majority of the tanks in use by Russia can hit a 1 metre target at 1.8km. It's not by accident.
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If that's the father and son video then there was footage taken by the people that found them. Couldn't watch that but the initial one was heart breaking.
Back in mid December when party gate was in full swing, little wonder Putin thought we’d barely notice…..
https://www.rferl.org/amp/russia-johnson-warning-ukraine/31607338.html
Are you kidding they're doing the early days of the blitz, what military target is around high rise residential estate?
In the uk if somone shelled a block of flates would you be saying they were aiming for a military target?
What military target was this missile aimed at?
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-borodyanka-destruction-russian-attack-drone-footage/31734904.html
Or this drone footage? What military target is there in this mass of apartment buildings?
They're shelling cities and civilians deliberately, you may want to believe they are, but it's not a difficult concept to grasp after all.
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And you think it's tank fire because youtube title says it? I am not saying it's not. You have 32 seconds video without context. Were there soldiers in that building. Who was firing. From what. Why. By default everybody assumes it's the Russians shooting at civilians. I doubt that given lack of information. It is possible though.
So what's your judgement if you are going to criticise the title? What does it look like to you?
You are going to throw into the mix that it could be Ukrainians firing at their own residential towers?
It's easy to ask questions and try and sound intelligent with no value provided.
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