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Dj_Jestar said:
Average house price increased by £8,000 last year.

How many sky subscriptions and avocados would someone on the average graduate salary of £24,000 need to skimp on to keep up with that increase?
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We also found that due to Covid a lot more people we're choosing 3-4 bed houses as they opted to work from home. This cause the rentals to increase by almost £300 and limited availability on 3 bed houses for families. some of the houses we're in dire need of up keep repainting and was shocked how they could charge that amount.

We looked at 2 beds and with a family of 4 it would be a hard chew to swallow, but some of them we're just too small.
 
Just realised another reason Russia would offer evac routes - it reduces the number of fighting aged people who'd otherwise be headed for Kyiv, etc.
 
Sankari said:
True, but we have to remember that's not what actually happened in the case of Ukraine. There was no genuine independence movement. Instead there was an illegal referendum orchestrated by Russia in 2014, an illegal invasion by Russia in 2014, and another illegal invasion this year.



Yes, but Ghandi genuinely spoke for the majority of the people, and the British were forced to recognise that fact. Again, this is not what happened in Ukraine.



I absolutely support the principle of independence. I want freedom and independence for Scotland, and I want the UK to end its occupation of Northern Ireland so it can be absorbed into the ROI. If Wales wanted to become independent, I'd support that too.

However, I don't support a foreign government running a fake independence movement in part of another country, pretending it was legitimate, then invading because the other country refused to condone these illegal shenanigans.
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I agree that's not actually what happened in Ukraine and don't support what did happen, but hypothetically if there was a genuine feeling among the population that they wanted independence, then it would have deserved some consideration rather than being thrown aside because technically there was no legal mechanism for an area to become independent and referendums on the topic aren't legally recognised.

That is kind of ironic you want independence for Scotland and Northern Ireland though, considering that the last polls I saw there was a pretty good majority in NI for staying part of the UK (and most people didn't even want a referendum within 5 years). Seems odd to describe NI as an occupation in those circumstances? Scotland voted against independence when given a referendum, and it seems from polls the majority has only just swung towards independence recently. I think the biggest numbers I saw for Welsh independence were 35% too. More than would want Cornish independence, let along Yorkshire independence, to use some other examples of independence movements, but still a massive gap to even a simple majority.
 
Or a full on way in.... Sorry m8 we did the best we could but your on your own. Dont worry we will keep sanctions on for another 3 months then lift then as Russia needs the money to rebuild more concrete blocks and syphon off 60% for the posh people.
 
garnett said:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...aff-homeless-cost-living-crisis-b2012326.html

How much emotional intelligence are you bringing to that assessment of yours over what constitutes a "reasonable job"?

Reasonable in terms of the value your work brings to UK society, or reasonable in the wage it brings home?

Either way, I can't get your argument to stack up.

Care workers struggling to keep a roof over their head. Should they be paid more? Or look for a different job that pays better?
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Oh, an Independent article and an appeal to my "emotional intelligence". I'm literally living on my own, so a care worker should be perfectly fine if they're sharing a house and would probably have more money than me. If they're a single mother of 2 doing care work and have a deadbeat for their kids Dad then granted they'll struggle, spot the problem there though.
 
dave1983 said:
I wonder how Putin will take it if Poland offers their Military Aircraft, didn't he see it as an act of war?
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it's just another arms deal. I am sure they won't be running sorties from Polish airbases so while he will get his panties bunched he'll be hard pressed to try and use it as an excuse to open a second front against a NATO member, unless turning the planet to glass is high on his bucket list.
 
Roar87 said:
Oh, an Independent article and an appeal to my "emotional intelligence". I'm literally living on my own, so a care worker should be perfectly fine if they're sharing a house and would probably have more money than me. If they're a single mother of 2 doing care work and have a deadbeat for their kids Dad then granted they'll struggle, spot the problem there though.
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You're disputing the facts and figures in the article I linked to, because those facts and figures are stated on the Independent website? How widely do you bring that approach to your research and thinking? Which media outlet websites don't you dismiss out of hand?

And caseworkers - they should all live on their own? And, because you don't want a family, they shouldn't either?

Fascinating. I am always grateful for any further info/background that is offered on how you've come to these conclusions of yours.
 
*UK's Prime Minister Johnson: Clearly Putin Is Doubling Down on His Aggression
*UK's Prime Minister Johnson: It’s Very Important to Send Message That We Are Not Anti-Russian
*UK’s Prime Minister Johnson: We Need to Do More in Regards to Sanctions.
*UK’s Prime Minister Johnson: We Are Trying to Go As Fast As Possible on Sanctions.

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- Sky News. https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-live-latest-news-putin-kyiv-invasion-12541713 (11:56am GMT)
 
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