Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Isn't that how capitalism works
This, regardless of anyone's feelings on how the media is covering this, or the narrative, or Ukraine's dirty laundry, everyone should be on the same page that Russia shouldn't be doing what it is doing.
Incredible. But I genuinely hope the Russian sailors manged to get off before it went down. I'll probably be called a Russian bot for that comment but many of the Russians probably don't want to be fighting either.
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Quite! Even if it went back to the '98 crisis rates, it's still along way from "setting you up"
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I'll support it especially if they don't just join another ship and start shooting anyone else!
Fair enough, I figured that it was doing better before the war tbh
I do feel empathy for them, especially conscripts being used as canon fodder. That empathy does diminish daily as you see pictures on the news of whole families wiped out by shelling. I can’t imagine the rage if it was my country.
Probably quite wise*makes mental note not to take investment advice from azazl*
If you read the caption on the video it says...
'There is no information about the fate of the crew. True, the water is cold, and next to it is the valiant Ukrainian air defense, which has already proven that it can make the weather non-flying literally at the click of a finger. Helicopters will not get close to drowning people...'
I'm not sure anyone will be helping anyone in the water...
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What a pathetic sad man. Why on earth would someone from the west do this?
You mean it wasn't 1/1 before they invaded?
There's always people like this.
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Edit - Bit unfair to the rest of the American population; although that guy is definitely part of the red hat brigade...
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Your points are not correct;
You have the main 'Slavic' umbrella which includes Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, Czechs, Serbs, Bulgarians, Belarusians, Croats, etc. Within that you have 3 sub groups, West Slavs (Poles, Czechs and Slovaks), South Slavs (Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Bulgarians etc) and East Slavs (Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians).
Within each of those sub-groups you have different ethnicities, so in the former Yugoslavia, while they all spoke pretty much exactly the same language (I speak a little Serb/Croat/Bosnian etc) you had ethnic Serbs, Bosnians and Croats et al. While they were all South Slavs their different ethnicities ultimately ended up in a war that led to the breakup of Yugoslavia.
In the same vein, amongst the West Slavs you have the Polish and Czechs but you can not call a Polish person the same as Czech person as they will tell you they are different ethnicities.
The same applies to Russians and Ukrainians. They have different languages and while both are related I've been told by my Ukrainian friends that Ukrainian is probably closer to Polish than Russian. As somebody else earlier in this thread correctly stated, while you find many Ukrainians can and do speak Russian, the reverse is not true.
My spoken Latvian is pretty good, my Russian not so much so but when I'm in Latvia talking to Latvians in their language I pretty much normally get the expression, "how comes you can speak Latvian but yet Russians that have been here for 60 years can hardly put two Latvian words together"
https://eacea.ec.europa.eu/national-policies/eurydice/content/population-demographic-situation-languages-and-religions-40_en#:~:text=In the beginning of 2017,, Tatars, and others).
Putin, in his recent speech stated the opposite, that there is no such thing as a Ukrainian ethnicity and Ukraine as a country does not really exist. (Donald Trump has said the same thing!) This is part of his excuse to invade.
I suspect it is our British mentality that we tend to lump everybody together as being the same and ignore the ethic difference that they themselves will tell you exists. For example, that the Uyghurs in China are just the same as all Chinese.
If you want to understand more about the background to this then this is good reading.
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2020/...ng-the-kremlins-version-of-ukrainian-history/
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The article literally says they are threatening to hold up aid to Ukraine, in some cases because they want it separated from other legislation. If they cared enough, they would want that aid to go through as quickly as possible, regardless of any riders.
No. Absolutely not. What does that gain for Ukraine? Nothing that protects her from another invasion. She must fight to the end for her sovereignty. Giving up even a scrap of land to Russia is an invitation to take more.
Telling the world that you don't mind if another country steals your land and invades you to keep it, is political suicide. It also legitimises the invasion in the eyes of its supporters.
You mean other than the indiscrimite slaughter of innocent civillians in their home and running to the borders for safety.
Whats more desperate than that? A tactical nuke, not going to happen, biological weopons, could do but being a neighbouring country it could blow back on them, although they would just blame Ukrain for using it on them.
But they are already as desperate as it gets.
My pleasure.
A sovereign nation has been illegally invaded by a greater power. That's what this comes down to. You either support that invasion or you don't. There's no two ways about it.
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