Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

Minusorange · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:32

Curlyriff said:
Safe passage. Bah, yeah right. The Russians haven't even provided that for woman and children to date or to allow humanitary support so nah not going to happen.

You would think Ukraine would learn what safe passage means to Russians - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk#Government_forces_retreat_and_massacre

Amnesia · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:33

RobHu said:
We all know the plight of the Ukrainian people right now, it's horrifying. Only Russian apologists would think otherwise. But if they as a country want to keep fighting then it's not for us to sit here doom mongering about their prospects whilst urging them to cede massive parts of their country to a dictator hell bent on recreating an empire. He'll only come back for the rest a few years down the line anyway if what's left of the country looks like wanting to make progress. They don't really have any easy choices left: fight and die with a chance of 'winning' (read: not end up a vassal state to Russia) or surrender and become oppressed. It's all ******.

I haven't said what Ukraine should do, I have pointed out how bad things are for the people trying to escape the war zone which nobody here ever talks about, because not everyone will have known about the women caught by the sex trafficking gangs in Romania.
I only saw that on Sky News yesterday and I don't feel it should be ignored.

chaparral · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:35

Is this true ?

Putin hit with betrayal as Belarusian troops turn on Russia and vow to fight for Ukraine
A BATTALION of Belarusian troops has vowed to help Ukrainian forces free the people of Mariupol from the brutal Russian siege, in a sign that even Vladimir Putin's closest allies are turning on him.

A volunteer battalion of Belarusian forces has released a video declaring their support for Ukraine as they vowed to "de-blockade" the besieged Mariupol from Russian forces.
Belarus, which is one of Vladimir Putin's few remaining allies, has been used to launch attacks and deploy troops into Ukraine. However, the video announcement is another sign that the Russian invasion is backfiring on President Putin.

Belarus troops break Russian alliance as battalion vows to fight with Ukrainian forces | World | News | Express.co.uk

Firestar_3x · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:35

Amnesia said:
I haven't said what Ukraine should do, I have pointed out how bad things are for the people trying to escape the war zone which nobody here ever talks about, because not everyone will have known about the women caught by the sex trafficking gangs in Romania.
I only saw that on Sky News yesterday and I don't feel it should be ignored.

Yes this aspect is terrible, but why are you so focused on it? Much bigger issues and consequences at play in this war.

Amnesia · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:38

Firestar_3x said:
Yes this aspect is terrible, but why are you so focused on it? Much bigger issues and consequences at play in this war.

I mentioned it once out of all my posts in this thread until people quoted that very post.

Was mentioning it once too much focus, do I need to repent with some fake Twitter news ?

RobHu · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:39

Amnesia said:
I haven't said what Ukraine should do, I have pointed out how bad things are for the people trying to escape the war zone which nobody here ever talks about, because not everyone will have known about the women caught by the sex trafficking gangs in Romania.
I only saw that on Sky News yesterday and I don't feel it should be ignored.

It's on a major news channel so it's not being ignored is it? People probably don't mention it much here because there's a whole lot going on. And yes your previous posts make it clear you think Ukraine should give in to Putins demands.

Firestar_3x · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:40

Amnesia said:
I mentioned it once out of all my posts in this thread until people quoted that very post and questioned it.

Was mentioning it once too much focus, do I need to repent with some fake Twitter news ?

Why not post some none fake twitter news, unless you are so bias that you assume that everything on Twitter is fake.

Amnesia · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:41

But that was real news, so were the articles I linked yesterday stating approx. 7k Russian soldiers had been killed.

arknor · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:42

bris said:
No, that was the Vietnam war

Then why did they embed mainstream journalists to cover the second gulf war?

For anyone who forgot they had reporters in the convoys

then later on there were loads of "git some" style videos showing attacks on civilians.

Seemed to be when USA decided journalists roaming with soldiers is probably a bad idea

Amnesia · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:42

RobHu said:
It's on a major news channel so it's not being ignored is it? People probably don't mention it much here because there's a whole lot going on. And yes your previous posts make it clear you think Ukraine should give in to Putins demands.

Quote the post and show me where I state Ukraine should give in.

I have said some concessions should be made so they can agree to a peace deal but that's the same thing Zelensky wants.

Turn · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:43

*Ukraine Plans to Send Nearly 50 Buses on Monday to Evacuate People from Mariupol Region – Deputy PM
*Ukraine Says 3,985 People Were Evacuated from Mariupol to Zaporizhzhia on Sunday – Deputy PM
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...evacuated-cities-sunday-deputy-pm-2022-03-20/

RobHu · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:45

Amnesia said:
Quote the post and show me where I state Ukraine should give in.

I didn't say you stated it - You haven't had to. Your messaging in this thread for days/weeks has been pretty clear. It's why people keep calling you a Putin shill/bootlicker etc (I don't agree with that).

Amnesia · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:47

RobHu said:
I didn't say you stated it - You haven't had to. Your messaging in this thread for days/weeks has been pretty clear.

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Andrew_McP · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:47

Don't care if it's been repeated already, because it bears repeating. I've just seen a meme with the words: "Putin's fatal mistake was to send slaves to liberate free people".

Those are darned good words.

RobHu · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:47

Amnesia said:
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Are you suddenly having trouble reading?

Amnesia · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:48

RobHu said:
I didn't say you stated it - You haven't had to. Your messaging in this thread for days/weeks has been pretty clear. It's why people keep calling you a Putin shill/bootlicker etc (I don't agree with that).

You're making a claim so back it up.

Also I haven't been repeatedly called a shill so that's a lie from you and that was one guy who decided to insult me with the bootlicker comment not people(plural) so another lie from you.

m@rty · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:52

Amnesia said:
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Are you 5 or something?

Shamikebab · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:52

Oh look Amnesia derailing the thread again, shock.

Turn · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:54

0007 said:
*Russia’s Defence Ministry Calls on ‘Nationalists’ in Ukraine’s Mariupol to Lay Down Arms, Offers Safe Passage Out on March 21 – TASS
*Russia’s Defence Ministry: Ukraine Has Until Early Hours of March 21 to Give Its Answer on Surrendering Mariupol – RIA

*The Russian Military Has Issued an Ultimatum for Mariupol’s Surrender – TASS.
https://twitter.com/mariatad/status/1505645767393955842 - 'Russia sets 5am Moscow deadline for the Ukrainian army to surrender Mariupol in ultimatum. After that, Russia says remaining forces will be tried by tribunal, TASS reports'
https://tass.com/defense/1424837 - more detailed

Washout · 20 Mar 2022 at 20:55

Amnesia said:
Quote the post and show me where I state Ukraine should give in.

I have said some concessions should be made so they can agree to a peace deal but that's the same thing Zelensky wants.

Amnesia said:
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I mean...

Amnesia said:
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I feel for Zelensky as he has done great to motivate the people to fight but there has to come a point where you look at all the destruction and dead bodies around you and think ok let's just agree to Putins demands no matter how bitter a pill they are to swallow.