Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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there's also the simple fact that there's a lot of propaganda in Russia. A lot of Russians living there and reading your thesun and daily mail equivalent are simply unaware of what is going on. If they were, the numbers protesting would be much higher.
 
NickK said:
The issue with sea is that you need to be able to project defence/attack in two mediums - this is where being underwater negates the use of cruise/antiship but allows threat to shipping in an asymmetrical way. Subs are too big/expensive thus the use of underwater 'cruise missiles'/autonomous drones with attack capabilities.
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All nice in theory but in reality what underwater drones do they currently have and what are they capable of? What are they likely to have within 5 years?

Seems like China was planning something for this Autumn even.

dave28 said:
Uploaded yesterday. Type this into youtube and it should come up :

Ukrainian forces attack 2 Russian TOS-1 thermobaric weapon systems, get a direct hit on 2nd attempt
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Nice one, cheers.

Damn, the crew deffo wanted to get out of that rear vehicle after the first hit! Big boom suggests at least the rear one was loaded/hadn't fired those missiles yet.
 
Guest2 said:
The population can certainly swing things though

Interesting read

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/could-a-kremlin-assassin-get-to-putin-

As the options open to the kleptocrats and and former secret policemen who Putin has protected and promoted close down, and the rage of the Russian people themselves rise, the best hope for ending this crisis may well rest with bad men acting to bring down the still worse and possibly deranged dictator who is leading them and Russia into the abyss.
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Dailymail should do it, they must have already infiltrated putins inner circle with some of the claims they make
 
Freefaller said:
I think people forget that it's the the population but the politicians, and they are different... unfortunately it's easy to jump on a bandwagon without realising or understanding the deeper impact of it.
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But it's not. There is massive support from the population for the war.
 
Sankari said:
Last year, Levada released a poll showing that public trust in Putin had dropped from 71% (September 2017) to 53% (October 2021). That's not the kind of message you'd be putting out if you were a government puppet.
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So 6%.

You may find this more interesting: pnas.1210722109 in terms of Putin's validity from elections. It's an analysis of the Russian election voting, compared with the same for other countries such as France, Canada etc including Uganda.

Life is cheap in Russia.
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In Putin's russia. Yes.
 
Dis86 said:
But it's not. There is massive support from the population for the war.
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So that means they all support it? No. So that's irrelevant. And they support the lies that Putin has said rather than the actual war. Though I'm sure there are some that have the bloodlust for it,.
 
Dis86 said:
But it's not. There is massive support from the population for the war.
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Is it actually support, or is it a population afraid of losing their job and/or life (beaten, jailed etc.)?

I mean, the Kremlin said support for Crimea being part of Russia was like 80%, but then they accidentally released the real numbers and it was like less than 20%, so I would be very reticent to believe any numbers of what Russia supposedly support when they basically have guns or batons held to their heads.
 
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Ayahuasca said:
The second attack is successful and pops the munitions the TOS-1A will be holding.
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I was thinking about this the other day. We all know Russian tanks are prone to cook off, and in the case of a TOS-1A etc the secondary explosions from the munitions are devastating.

Surely we could find a way to rig up "cheap" off the shelf commercial drones with white phosphorus packages and just suicide run them into the tanks. I would assume hitting any tank near its barrel is going to generate enough heat/enough damage to put the main armament out of use.
 
andybird123 said:
Is it actually support, or is it a population afraid of losing their job and/or life (beaten, jailed etc.)?
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And what is it that they believe they are supporting? War crimes in the name of Putin's ego and restoring Russian dominance of Eastern Europe? Or defending mother Russia from evil Western powers seeking to encircle and destroy them?
 
andybird123 said:
No, but then considering it's taken over 2 weeks for Russia to no be able to take several other cities I figure we can give them a couple of days
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Too true. From the BBC maps the Ukrainians deffo pushed the Russians back around Mykolaiv. Russians back on the attack to the north though.
 
Dis86 said:
But it's not. There is massive support from the population for the war.
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The problem is they don't actually know what they are supporting.

Putin has them believing they are de nazifying the country and liberating the population.

They really don't know the truth because for most of the population all the see is state news and propoganda.
 
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