They never turned up to fit my smart meter

DXP55 · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:22

Time line 12.00 till 4.00 -Got in garage -shifted all junk off shelves -cleaned everything then did a few bits and pieces- no show - went in for cup tea went back in garage and did some more tidying up -4.00 put eveything back went in and ping -got a text -sorry can't make it - well I was starting to boil and ping -sorry we couldn't make it so we have credited your account with £30.

They can do this a few times if they want.

LeeUK · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:46

A blessing in disguise. I'd never get a smart meter. Surge pricing is coming.

SDK^ · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:50

LeeUK said:
A blessing in disguise. I'd never get a smart meter. Surge pricing is coming.

If you don’t want cheaper energy bills then continue without a Smart meter.

My smart meter gives me access to cheaper overnight car charging - means I save £22 every 200 miles, over normal day rates.

LeeUK · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:52

SDK^ said:
If you don’t want cheaper energy bills then continue without a Smart meter.

Not sure how having a smart meter is going to get me cheaper bills especially if they bring in surge pricing. Unless I sit in the dark during peak times.

john_smith · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:54

You're uneducated in this field Lee, step away from it to save yourself from further embarrassment.

You're welcome.

SDK^ · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:54

LeeUK said:
Not sure how having a smart meter is going to get me cheaper bills especially if they bring in surge pricing. Unless I sit in the dark during peak times.

You set high energy use items to turn on when energy is cheaper !
E.g. Electric cars, tumble driers, storage heaters, storage batteries.. etc….

The smart meter provides the information to the supplier through timed meter readings.

No one is saying you need to sit in the dark, or cook at 4am

Malevolence · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:56

Some of us can't have a smart meter installed because they would have to rip out one half of matching fitted cupboards to do so.

darkgen · 5 Apr 2022 at 19:59

john_smith said:
You're uneducated in this field Lee, step away from it to save yourself from further embarrassment.

You're welcome.

To be fair to the guy; I'm still struggling to understand the point of them myself outside of the slight inconvenience of submitting meter readings periodically.

john_smith · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:00

SDK^ said:
You set high energy use items to turn on when energy is cheaper !
E.g. Electric cars, tumble driers, storage heaters, storage batteries.. etc….

The smart meter provides the information to the supplier through timed meter readings.

No one is saying you need to sit in the dark, or cook at 4am

This is the way.

LeeUK · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:02

SDK^ said:
You set high energy use items to turn on when energy is cheaper !
E.g. Electric cars, tumble driers, storage heaters, storage batteries.. etc….

The smart meter provides the information to the supplier through timed meter readings.

No one is saying you need to sit in the dark, or cook at 4am

I don't have any of those things so I still stand by my point.

john_smith · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:03

darkgen said:
To be fair to the guy; I'm still struggling to understand the point of them myself outside of the slight inconvenience of submitting meter readings periodically.

With 30 min meter readings it opens up the possibility of mch cheaper energy. A smart meter + a smart user = cheaper electric. Why is that a bad thing? Lee still wants to use his tumble drier at 6pm in 2025 when "surge pricing" (stupid clickbait fear name) *might* be introduced so he'll keep his dumb meter.

darkgen · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:05

So, aspects of social engineering apply? When you should or should not use certain devices? Somewhat sinister. I do not recall that in the marketing sell for these devices.

SDK^ · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:09

darkgen said:
So, aspects of social engineering apply? When you should or should not use certain devices? Somewhat sinister. I do not recall that in the marketing sell for these devices.

There is nothing sinister about it. Absolutely no one cares about your specific energy use. Trend data might be collected, but this will be your data merged with thousands of other users.

darkgen · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:10

Someone make their mind up. Is it saving us money or not?

john_smith · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:12

Looking at my consumption. Over the last 28 days i've averaged 21.71kWh a day at a cost of £1.28 a day. This is only made possible because I have a smart meter.

Thanks.

Minusorange · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:12

darkgen said:
So, aspects of social engineering apply? When you should or should not use certain devices? Somewhat sinister. I do not recall that in the marketing sell for these devices.

So if everyone is charging their car and running everything else at 4am, does 4am become the new peak time ?

SDK^ · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:12

darkgen said:
Someone make their mind up. Is it saving us money or not?

Did you read any of the previous posts?
You can’t save money on time of use energy tariffs if your supplier doesn’t know when you are using energy. Smart meters enable suppliers to bill you based on energy you used at specific times.

john_smith · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:14

darkgen said:
Someone make their mind up. Is it saving us money or not?

Swapping a dumb meter for a smart meter will do absolutely nothing for your bills. However if you exploit certain tarrifs that are only availble if you have a smart meter then you can make significant savings.

darkgen · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:15

Ahh, it's a trust relationship with energy suppliers. Got it.

LeeUK · 5 Apr 2022 at 20:15

john_smith said:
Looking at my consumption. Over the last 28 days i've averaged 21.71kWh a day at a cost of £1.28 a day. This is only made possible because I have a smart meter.

Thanks.

It's not difficult to divide the kWh used as stated on my bill by the amount of days in a month. Nor do I need a little display to tell me I'm using too much energy while boiling the kettle.