Caporegime
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But if you’re arguing against a meter, then surely you’re trying to avoid paying for exactly what you use?
Water meter Install Groan.
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Soldato
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Yeah i just don't understand how you use so much to cost you that much?
We bath our little girl every day and both have showers, dishwasher is on almost daily, same for the washing machine and i have a big garden with loads of fruit and veg, fill up paddling pools a couple of times during the summer. The only thing different is i don't bother to ever wash my cars
And after all that we're paying hardly anything for water, as i said i think its £17 a month on a meter..
I'm not arguing, I can have a meter and then you have 2 years to decide if you want stay on a meter or not, even specifically said if it's not cheaper then you can go back on the standard rate. What idiot chooses to pay more than they need to for anything.
Wash the dishes by hand you lazy sod!
Dishwashers use far less water.
Why don't you calculated it out? Take a typical period and measure your base usage. Then test and estimate garden use? For instance what you've said:
Using rates from my last bill at £3.95 a m3 (includes all the waste water figures for severn trent, note that this also includes the 10% or so cost for my surface water drainage, if your gutters don't go into the drains then you'll pay less)
Dishwasher typically is 10L a wash @ 8 times per week - 346L a month, or £1.36 a month
Washing machine 50L a wash @ 3 times per week - 650L a month, or £2.57 a month
Pressure washing @ 450L per hour use - 2 hours to wash each patio twice a year - 300L a month - £1.19 a month
Car washing @ 450L per hour - assumed use is 20 minutes per car for 3 cars every week - 1950L a month - £7.70 a month
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Water is so cheap. I wash two cars weekly, fill a hot tub regularly, listen to my wife shower endlessly, flush the loo 3-4 times due to our poor drainage system and leave the hose running for hours on the garden - have even forgotten about it and flooded next doors garden overnight. Plus daily dishwasher and washing machine. £30 a month.
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How many m3 a month do you use?
I'm average 11m3 and paying about £45pm.
I only ever laid less for water on a meter when we didn't have kids. I don't know how we can use less and make it cheaper on a meter.
But it's a fair point. All services should be nationalised and people should simply pay for what they use. It's the same with council tax, it's hardly fair that just because someone's house was worth XX more in 1990, then the rateable value was higher - and hence you pay much more for your water. My water in London should cost the same as everyone else's in the country, everyone having to run a meter goes in the right direction towards that at least.
Yeah absolutely this, it's about time they move everyone to a pay for what you use model. I know a good few people who are on rates who just waste water because the usage doesn't cost them anything extra.
If you're baulking at paying for the water you use remember you're also paying again for the water that runs away in to the sewer system, ie. poop and roof waste water - that is unless you have a septic tank. I get a considerable discount for not being connected to the sewers but of course have to pay to have the tank emptied. For those that have a septic tank check your water bill to make sure you're not paying for waste water!
I was thinking about this the other day and was wandering if compulsory water meter might not be a useful tool to reduce the nations energy consumption. If everyone started taking shorter showers and shallower baths and maybe even heaven forbid showering less often in general think of the overall energy saving that could be realised.
A new meaning of the “the great unwashed”
It's not really that simple though is it? A lot of cost in London comes from maintaining the infrastructure. It costs FAR more to dig up a road in London than say newcastle.
But this is why your salary in London is so much higher comparatively than up here.
Be far better for `them`to fix all the leaky pipes around here
The amount of leaks in the roads is mind boggling and are left (in some cases) for months,if not years
Yeah, you're not wrong. The amount of leaks is crazy and the time to fix.
Privatised though, all about the profits.