25 Gbit/s Fiber Blog

Grim5 said:
On the bright side fibre already runs into my house so as soon as my ISP offers faster I can get it straight away the only restriction on faster speeds is the modem and the backend ISP hardware
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Yep exactly same here, just requires a change of the ONT on my side, that's why I'm not too bothered either - 940/940 seems sufficient for now.
I'd be more happy to see the rest of the UK reach 1Gbps first as others have mentioned, then infrastructure upgrades further down the line to go 10Gbps+ and beyond for everyone.
 
WJA96 said:
I think we established that with a 25Gbps connection you’d only need to be inline for a few minutes a day, an hour if yiu went ‘burst’.

Yiu could spend the rest of the day actually using your computers for something useful rather than just shunting data around for the sake of copying it loads of times. And I’ve never asked what the content was, but you never say and you’ve still never really explained you can saturate a 10Gbps remote connection with a 50 Mbps upload speed.
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Once upon a time, there was a wise Zen master. People travelled from far away to seek his help. In return, he would teach them and show them the way to enlightenment.

On this particular day, a scholar came to visit the master for advice. “I have come to ask you to teach me about Zen,” the scholar said.

Soon, it became obvious that the scholar was full of his own opinions and knowledge. He interrupted the master repeatedly with his own stories and failed to listen to what the master had to say. The master calmly suggested that they should have tea.

So the master poured his guest a cup. The cup was filled, yet he kept pouring until the cup overflowed onto the table, onto the floor, and finally onto the scholar’s robes. The scholar cried “Stop! The cup is full already. Can’t you see?”

“Exactly,” the Zen master replied with a smile. “You are like this cup — so full of ideas that nothing more will fit in. Come back to me with an empty cup.”
 
Rainmaker said:
Once upon a time, there was a wise Zen master. People travelled from far away to seek his help. In return, he would teach them and show them the way to enlightenment.

On this particular day, a scholar came to visit the master for advice. “I have come to ask you to teach me about Zen,” the scholar said.

Soon, it became obvious that the scholar was full of his own opinions and knowledge. He interrupted the master repeatedly with his own stories and failed to listen to what the master had to say. The master calmly suggested that they should have tea.

So the master poured his guest a cup. The cup was filled, yet he kept pouring until the cup overflowed onto the table, onto the floor, and finally onto the scholar’s robes. The scholar cried “Stop! The cup is full already. Can’t you see?”

“Exactly,” the Zen master replied with a smile. “You are like this cup — so full of ideas that nothing more will fit in. Come back to me with an empty cup.”
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Yeah, but you never came back to me.
 
WJA96 said:
Yeah, but you never came back to me.
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I've answered multiple times, and each time you come back with a twist on the question or ignore the answer based on your preconceived notions. All this started because you said it was 'impossible' to utilise a very fast connection. Once I disagreed we've spent yesterday and today going around in circles with you moving the goal posts between 'it must be seedboxes' to 'you're a business' to whatever else. All I've said, and repeated, is that I would enjoy and utilise such a connection. You won't, which is fine. That doesn't mean it's impossible or that someone else couldn't find uses for it.

Regarding your bone about saturating 10Gbps offsite when I have 50 megs upstream at home... What makes you think my use of offsite servers is predicated on my own home bandwidth? SSH is a thing. I pay for offsite servers to utilise their higher bandwidth **because** my home Internet is crap. That's the whole point. The two are not related. With a fat pipe at home I could stop paying so much for offsite boxes and bring more things in house. It's that simple. Honestly mate my wife's in hospital and I've got three disabled kids to look after. Spending two days trying to justify my home network is becoming tedious. I'm out.
 
Not sure why this needed pages of back and forth bashing and talking crap lol. Bottom line is a 25Gb fibre connection is a highly niche market for anyone that has a desire to pay and fully utilise such a connection - especially as a residential package.

Even as a tech nerd like most of us here are, there is very little real world use for it. I have Virgin's 1Gb (yes I wish it was proper FTTP but hey-ho) and find it's more than enough for my needs. But when 2Gb or 5Gb comes out and it isn't horribly priced, I will still likely upgrade to it because I can! :D

If you think you can use a 25Gb connection, great! There will no doubt be a extremely tiny minority who can, or will purposely try saturate it because why not... But 99% of country will not and have no use case for it in 2022. There's no argument to be had right now on this tbf :)
 
Sparx said:
Not sure why this needed pages of back and forth bashing and talking crap lol. Bottom line is a 25Gb fibre connection is a highly niche market for anyone that has a desire to pay and fully utilise such a connection - especially as a residential package.

Even as a tech nerd like most of us here are, there is very little real world use for it. I have Virgin's 1Gb (yes I wish it was proper FTTP but hey-ho) and find it's more than enough for my needs. But when 2Gb or 5Gb comes out and it isn't horribly priced, I will still likely upgrade to it because I can! :D

If you think you can use a 25Gb connection, great! There will no doubt be a extremely tiny minority who can, or will purposely try saturate it because why not... But 99% of country will not and have no use case for it in 2022. There's no argument to be had right now on this tbf :)
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Even my 8GB/s is niche, for example you can't download games from steam higher than around 300Mbps so it's only saturating a small portion of the connection and you need a 10g router, motherboard and cables to do this it's not cheap at all.

So even a 2GB/s or 4GB/s would just about max out the capabilities of what you can do today in a single PC in terms of downloads
 
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