Depends how big the gaps are or how much of a clear view ahead there is. If we are talking an NSL with 60, it means it is single carriage and therefore has oncoming traffic. I'd rather do the overtake as quickly as possible.
Is this true? Speed limiters fitted to all new cars
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Depends how big the gaps are or how much of a clear view ahead there is. If we are talking an NSL with 60, it means it is single carriage and therefore has oncoming traffic. I'd rather do the overtake as quickly as possible.
Not sure what I think about this, I would say good idea on city roads, in no overtaking areas as well.
But on main trunk roads and the like, you could have a vehicle about 5mph or so below the limit and overtaking them at the limit is possibly more dangerous than overtaking at a faster pace, especially on single carriageways.
But on main trunk roads and the like, you could have a vehicle about 5mph or so below the limit and overtaking them at the limit is possibly more dangerous than overtaking at a faster pace, especially on single carriageways.
Even a 10mph differential requires a massive gap at the speed limit.
Will just turn driving in europe the same as the US, where everyone seems to drive bumper to bumper at the speed limit and have loads of accidents.
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This narks me off already. My 530d could easily do 156mph LOL.
Nail on the head there. The amount of cars i see not signalling at roundabouts or going through red lights is growing.
Standards are slipping and either we improve ourselves or wave goodbye to actually driving yourself as autonomous cars replace driving yourself.
To be fair, it's not particularly hard to understand that someone should drive 30 in a 30, but many seem to struggle with the application... This seems a more preferable way to enforce the law then average speed cameras on every road. Even better would be appropriate road design though, as it should feel uncomfortable to exceed the speed limit.
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yeah but that would take effort, and logical thinking.
why bother with that when we can get a machine to do the job of the human?
i mean there are no loopholes whatsoever.......
on a serious note, mans is not a fan of his car doing things he didn't tell it to......
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This takes personal desire to do so, and recognise that "a man telling you that you need to signal" is evidence of "improving ourselves".
Or dare i say we should resit the practical driving test every 'x' years. This would sort out crap driving.
And there it is in a nutshell.
This is just one of the stepping stones to fully autonomous cars.
As electric cars start to become mainstream over the next few years, manufacturers will move ever closer to full level 5 autonomous cars, with no sterring wheels, no pedals, no way for the human to override anything the car does.
These devices are so manufacturers can develop better sign detection and recognition routines, better GPS to show sign locations, and vehicle locations etc.
In the draft regulation for these Intelligent Assist Devices, there were clauses saying that the allowance for the driver to override the speed control by pressing harder on the accelerator,, will be removed within a few years.
So there will be zero way to override the car and break the speed limit.
Also the laws coming in to restrict and ban tampering of ECU's and other safety related systems on cars, will mean these assist devices will not be able to be bypassed, and autonomous control systems will be protected from any tampering and overrides.
It is all just stepping stones to fully autonomous vehicles on our roads, within 5 to 10 years.
Completely against this (even as someone who largely sticks to the speed limit, have unfortunately seen first hand the outcome of too many high-speed crashes, and been accused by members on here of driving like a grandad :s) - I'm all for a non-invasive warning if you exceed the speed limit, maybe even the event logged in the event of a crash, but anything else including any altering of the functionality of the car absolutely no.
I don't know why any sane person would be accepting of this.
I don't know why any sane person would be accepting of this.
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So what happens if you go around hanging 20mph signs everywhere? Or have one made up to sit in the rear window?
However, as with electric cars, autonomous is the way the industry is heading, so it will happen, no matter how much people dislike it.
Well not if enough people dislike it and actually take a stand against it - sadly most people will just roll over these days.
I keep saying to my OH that driving tests every few years should be mandatory
Problem is, as touched on earlier in the thread, people need to want to improve for it it to really make a difference.
I see the same people driving past my house quite frequently, taking a dangerous approach to the corner at the end of my garden due to being lazy and complacent, nearly going under a lorry coming the other way, etc. and **** themselves... and do the exact same thing the next time and the next.
I see the same people driving past my house quite frequently, taking a dangerous approach to the corner at the end of my garden due to being lazy and complacent, nearly going under a lorry coming the other way, etc. and **** themselves... and do the exact same thing the next time and the next.
Have any manufacturers indicated they'll be implementing anything other than the acoustic (or vibration based) warning yet?
I would assume most will go for the simple acoustic warning as it'll require minimal additional hardware - I'll be interested to see who is the first to go for the more intrusive power reduction / haptic pedal resist approach.
I would assume most will go for the simple acoustic warning as it'll require minimal additional hardware - I'll be interested to see who is the first to go for the more intrusive power reduction / haptic pedal resist approach.
One of my parent's VWs has I think dynamic sign assist or something like that - quite a bit of the time it actually seems to work well - get a chime warning of exceeding the speed limit - but there are times when it picks up any random thing as well and/or just plain gets it wrong. I think it is an older implementation than the one in current VWs though - it was enabled via a software update at some point.
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Certain roads when I'm in either my Model 3, or my wife's mk 8 fiesta (cars included to show new tech) have the wrong limit. Quite a few show as 50 even though its a 30. Don't really see a reliable way of reading speed limits, if purely sign based there's always hedges in the way and how will the government tax people that used to get caught 
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.Certain roads when I'm in either my Model 3, or my wife's mk 8 fiesta (cars included to show new tech) have the wrong limit. Quite a few show as 50 even though its a 30. Don't really see a reliable way of reading speed limits, if purely sign based there's always hedges in the way and how will the government tax people that used to get caught
Good point as far as optical recognition goes - last summer around here loads of signs were completely obscured by vegetation growth - it has been cut back now and/or thinned out in the winter. GPS is also far from completely reliable - I don't completely rarely get instances where my satnav thinks I'm like 5 miles away from where I am for a bit :s