Graphics card sudden death

Drumroll · 22 May 2022 at 18:46

Very odd the sudden death of your GPU. If there’s something to easy your issue is that prices aren’t as insulting as few months ago.
Yes, power for 3000 series is obscene. Was using a 6800XT which would use 280W on worst scenario, the 3080 goes “happily “ past 360W under the same conditions.

sastusbulbas · 23 May 2022 at 07:15

Same thing happened to me, EVGA 1070 FTW, only ever done light gaming. Though mine you could smell burning from.

Apparently EVGA 1080 and 1070 FTW cards had a known issue that required DiY or return to reduce the chance of card failure due to overheating. It was news back when the card was released, that EVGA frankly shirked responsibility on.
I was registered as an owner of the card, they never told owners. I knew nothing of this until my card failed and I looked it up.

When my card died I asked about repair or discount and feel I was met with poor customer support .
If EVGA had made me aware of the issue I would have returned the card for the modification they were offering to anyone who seen the videos and was concerned, frankly disgusting that only customers who chanced to find out or got a premature failure got the fix/replacement.
EVGA should have supported customers even after warranty who suffered from that known issue.

I am under no illusion here, my EVGA 1070 should have not burned out due to overheating within a Phanteks Mini XL with two 140mm front fans and a 140mm exhaust when all I play is occasional WoT, Warframe, Age of Empires and C&C on a 1080 monitor. In my whole life it has been the only GPU card that 100% died on me.

I still need a GPU, and have three kids I would like to get new GPU's for, only looking at possibly 3060ti level performance, maybe 3070 for myself.

Any company who sells GPU's then ignores a potential issue that shortens their product lifespan should be ashamed.

Sadly with the current inflated prices it will be some time before this family is happily gaming on decent GPU's.

strumpusplunket · 23 May 2022 at 07:32

Ah, so kind of reassuring to hear I'm not the only one in the thread to have experienced sudden death of a card. I'm also an older gamer and I'm now plannning on just keeping my new card for five years or more. I can't imagine gaming on a 3080 in five years time will be that much inferior to still using a 1080 Ti in mid-2022.

It is indeed something of a relief that we are no longer in the territory of the pricing and availabiility of the previous couple of years. If this had happened a year ago I'm sure I'd have ended up with an unwanted budget option that would barely have served. It is still double the highest amount I've ever paid for a card to date, but dammit I am determined this new one is now going to last me!

I am also very pleased that I kept this little GT1030 tucked away in my desk drawer just in case!

B@Th*nG · 23 May 2022 at 07:40

You could probably get the 1080 repaired and then sell it. Pm me if you want the contact details of a guy I know who does PCB level repairs. He also sells pc components or I'd just post it here

Iron Man · 23 May 2022 at 09:01

My 3090 ROG Strix died on me last week so I know how this feels. Hoping the rma process through overclockers is quick!

Quartz · 23 May 2022 at 09:20

strumpusplunket said:
I can't imagine gaming on a 3080 in five years time will be that much inferior to still using a 1080 Ti in mid-2022.

I think it will depend upon how much games change to RT.

Darren_uk · 23 May 2022 at 13:16

strumpusplunket said:
My trusty old GTX 1080 Ti kicked the bucket very suddenly last night. I was just heading back to the shrine in Nioh 2 before bed when all of a sudden the display went off and the PC wouldn't POST again, displaying the "bad VGA" LED.

I have ordered a new card, but also a bit concerned about the cause of the old one's demise. I had an examinatoin of the card under the HSF and can't see any visibily damaged components or leaking caps.

Now, I'd had the card for about three-and-a-half years and someone else had owned it for several months before that. It's done a very decent amount of gaming, but to pop its clogs so suddenly - no artifacting, no performance issues, no crashes - was a major surprise. Just working fine, then a brick.

What's the possiblity this was caused by a power spike from my PSU? Obviously I don't want to risk my new card going the same way. I have a decent PSU, I think - Bitfenix Gold 750W. Less than five years old. The PC is running okay now with my old HTPC's GT1030 in it, so nothing else appears to be damaged.

Would anyone else be looking to replace the PSU as well, just in case? Or is that just paranoid thinkning and overkill?

Nioh 2 have ready to play in my steam lib, loved Nioh the complete edition

strumpusplunket · 24 May 2022 at 19:09

B@Th*nG said:
You could probably get the 1080 repaired and then sell it. Pm me if you want the contact details of a guy I know who does PCB level repairs. He also sells pc components or I'd just post it here

I hadn't thought of that. There is a guy not far from us who does that too, I think. Where are you bawsed? Guessing not much chance of it being easy travelling distance from West Mids?

Iron Man said:
My 3090 ROG Strix died on me last week so I know how this feels. Hoping the rma process through overclockers is quick!

Sadly, no RMA. This was second-hand and would have been out of warrany anyway.

Quartz said:
I think it will depend upon how much games change to RT.

Hmm. I've not had any experience of RT yet. Now I have a card that supports it I should give it a whirl! What's a good game to showcase RT?

Darren_uk said:
Nioh 2 have ready to play in my steam lib, loved Nioh the complete edition

It's pretty cool. Feels very similar to the first one, but has a few new tricks. A bit too similar for me given my 200 hours in the first one, and I go through phases of being totally addicted and not being able to be bothered starting it up.

Anyway... now card (3080) is now working in my PC. Got a five-year warranty so that's some peace of mind.

B@Th*nG · 24 May 2022 at 19:24

strumpusplunket said:
I hadn't thought of that. There is a guy not far from us who does that too, I think. Where are you bawsed? Guessing not much chance of it being easy travelling distance from West Mids?

He's in Trowbridge, near Bath, in Wiltshire - so not really. He often does it via the post but if you have someone local and you trust then it'll save you on postage. They're still worth AT LEAST £200, probably closer to £300, so it'll be worth the effort I expect as long as you do it quickly before the new cards are out. Take a look at the members market and weigh it up.

drakulton · 24 May 2022 at 19:26

@strumpusplunket If you have a look at part of this thread,
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...d-console-repairs-mods.18940033/post-35629636
there's a chap here, Vince who's a bit of a wizard when it comes to PCB diagnostics with the pointy sticks.

My GTX1070fe died in it's sleep, and now it's up and running. I thoroughly recommend having a chat with him to see if there's anything that can be done to fix it.

Vince · 24 May 2022 at 19:45

Dunno who this fella is

- @strumpusplunket, if you want it diagnosed/fixed id be happy to take a look.

If it's a short on a fet or something like that chances are pretty good on getting it up and running again.

strumpusplunket · 24 May 2022 at 21:07

B@Th*nG said:
He's in Trowbridge, near Bath, in Wiltshire - so not really. He often does it via the post but if you have someone local and you trust then it'll save you on postage. They're still worth AT LEAST £200, probably closer to £300, so it'll be worth the effort I expect as long as you do it quickly before the new cards are out. Take a look at the members market and weigh it up.

Yeah, that is quite a chunk of cash off the price of my new card. Good suggestion.

Vince said:
Dunno who this fella is - @strumpusplunket, if you want it diagnosed/fixed id be happy to take a look. If it's a short on a fet or something like that chances are pretty good on getting it up and running again.

And wow, yeah, that would be really great. Sounds like you've got a good rep!

I'll send a DM if that's okay (or whatever the new system is now...).

Quartz · 24 May 2022 at 21:19

strumpusplunket said:
What's a good game to showcase RT?

Quake RTX is a good starting point.

strumpusplunket · 24 May 2022 at 21:28

Quartz said:
Quake RTX is a good starting point.

I thought this was a joke at first

but then I Googled it, and... that looks almost unfeasibly good. It's just the old textures with ray tracing enabled? Stunning. And free on Steam, too. Will have to give it a whirl.

Vince · 24 May 2022 at 21:34

d_brennen said:
Autopsy and pics!

In time, it's on its way to me! come over to the thread above and we will see what is wrong with it some time next week.

Quartz · 24 May 2022 at 22:11

strumpusplunket said:
I thought this was a joke at first but then I Googled it, and... that looks almost unfeasibly good.

It is rather good. Remember that it's a great game

strumpusplunket said:
It's just the old textures with ray tracing enabled? Stunning. And free on Steam, too. Will have to give it a whirl.

@Rroff can give you chapter and verse but all the textures have been reworked for RTX.

Rroff · 24 May 2022 at 22:16

They have high-res textures for most stuff - and the latest update you can even enable the higher quality textures in the Open GL renderer. Though a lot of the textures are a bit generic and/or reused over similar stuff rather than being a faithful reproduction in higher quality of the original texture.

I'm a bit on the fence though as to it being a good showcase unless you understand the technical aspects - it still has all the geometry limitations of the original game, etc. and it is a fairly automated lighting overhaul rather than reworking the levels to make best use of path-tracing, etc. wish I had the time to do a decent tech demo for it.

strumpusplunket · 27 May 2022 at 09:30

Vince said:
In time, it's on its way to me! come over to the thread above and we will see what is wrong with it some time next week.

Thanks again! Managed to find a box for it and dropped it off at the post office this morning. Looking forward to seeing what you find out. This will be a learning experience for me!

Rroff said:
They have high-res textures for most stuff - and the latest update you can even enable the higher quality textures in the Open GL renderer. Though a lot of the textures are a bit generic and/or reused over similar stuff rather than being a faithful reproduction in higher quality of the original texture.

I'm a bit on the fence though as to it being a good showcase unless you understand the technical aspects - it still has all the geometry limitations of the original game, etc. and it is a fairly automated lighting overhaul rather than reworking the levels to make best use of path-tracing, etc. wish I had the time to do a decent tech demo for it.

Ah right. It looks very nice in the images that come up on Google, but then I've not seen any raytracing yet so don't have much to compare it to. Are there any other good implementations of it to give a whirl? Was thinking I might grab Cyberpunk at some point now it's been patched and I hear that has some impressive RT?

Vince · 27 May 2022 at 09:46

strumpusplunket said:
Thanks again! Managed to find a box for it and dropped it off at the post office this morning. Looking forward to seeing what you find out. This will be a learning experience for me!

Ah right. It looks very nice in the images that come up on Google, but then I've not seen any raytracing yet so don't have much to compare it to. Are there any other good implementations of it to give a whirl? Was thinking I might grab Cyberpunk at some point now it's been patched and I hear that has some impressive RT?

Perfect - I still have a couple of fets here so we might even be able to turn it around quickly

The only thing that we 100% can't fix is if 12v was sent to the core which to be honest is unlikely but it does happen from time to time. Ill update you once I have the card and have diagnosed it. I can tell you one thing for sure, if its fixable it will be much less of a faff than @randal router that im looking at now :cry:

Vince · 28 May 2022 at 18:16

strumpusplunket said:
Thanks again! Managed to find a box for it and dropped it off at the post office this morning. Looking forward to seeing what you find out. This will be a learning experience for me!

Ah right. It looks very nice in the images that come up on Google, but then I've not seen any raytracing yet so don't have much to compare it to. Are there any other good implementations of it to give a whirl? Was thinking I might grab Cyberpunk at some point now it's been patched and I hear that has some impressive RT?

Its arrived! : Very quick test, its got a short to ground on 12v. This fet is blown:

Of course I cant find any info on it... Edit: Worked it out they are an FDMS3604S Dual N-Chanel Fet and the short is on the memory VRM not Vcore. Down side is that I can only find them in china.