New build......after 10years

audi-matt

audi-matt

audi-matt

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Built my old machine 10 years ago. Amd fx , r290.


I only mainly used it as a general pc tbh. But I want to upgrade.
New uses are probably little bit of gaming. Office, media, and light social media content.

I want Intel this time round, but what sort of cpu area am I looking at?
High end i5, i7 or i9
Mobo - I don't really have a clue.. m.2 is a benefit, WiFi too but not essential.

Graphics- on-board graphics would suffice until I can splash out on a really good gpu.
Plus I could use my r290 for now until my office is finished. Then buy a good card to start gaming.

Ram - 16gb enough these days ?
AiO - I'd like a corsair h100-150 maybe depending on. Overall cost

I have a 1tb ssd, but would buy a 1tb m.2
I have a corsair 700d case
I have a good PSU

And a good 27inch monitor please.
Is 4k needed? Or what's people running g these days
1080? But with better refresh rate ?


Any advice and some potentional cpu/mobile combos would be great as this is the biggest unknown for me


Thanks
 
You could get an i3 and be fine for the general office / media / some gaming tbh (check out some reviews, the 12th gen i3 gets very decent framerates in modern games). But then if you're planning to get a top of the range gpu in future then it might hold it back, and a 12600k might be a better option.

Basically any reasonably priced B660 board should do the job, although a Z690 board might be a better match for a 12600k.

16GB RAM is fine for now, although potentially might be a limitation for AAA games in a couple of years time.

Don't think there's anything wrong with the corsair h100/150, but the arctic liquid freezer II AIOs tend to get recommended instead as they're a bit cheaper but have thicker radiators. If saving a bit of money looks like the Arctic i35 air cooler is a very good option too.
I'd this the case you've got? https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/Categories/Products/Cases/Obsidian-Series™-700D-Full-Tower-Case/p/CC700D
It seems to list 240mm AIOs as compatible, so although it says it can take triple radiators might be worth measuring first to make sure there's enough room.

Not sure on the details, but sometimes people have issues getting very old gpus to run on modern motherboards if the gpu doesn't support Uefi, so might be worth planning to use integrated graphics rather than your r290 in case it won't work.

I would go for a 27" 1440p monitor that's the most common option for gaming builds these days. I have an earlier LG model and happy with it, and the one in the build seems decent enough: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gp850-b
Potentially worth going 4k (although at 27" the visible difference from 1440p won't be massive), but you will pay a lot more for it, and to get high framerates on modern AAA games you will have to get a high-end gpu. Depends on how much you want to spend really!

Cheaper option:
My basket at OcUK:

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More expensive option:


My basket at OcUK:

Total: £1,127.90 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

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Thank you

I was thinking a 12 series I5, with the MSI MAG Z6 too.

I like the sound of both examples mate
The onbaord graphics would be a life saver for a month or 2 really.
 
Oops just noticed I put the 12600KF on the build, which is the one without integrated graphics - meant to put the 12600K.

One thing to note with the arctic liquid freezer AIOs is if you do get one might be worth ordering elsewhere - have heard a couple of times people ordering them from ocuk and finding the socket 1700 mounting kit not being included despite not being advertised as compatible (presumably just old stock). Either that or post in ocuk customer services first to check.
 
They're an improvement on past Intel integrated graphics, although not as good as the Ryzen APUs.... Basically they should be absolutely fine for general use, and will let you run older games at low settings and reduced resolutions. More recent graphically intensive titles are basically a no-go though.
Eg this review has a few examples: https://www.anandtech.com/show/1726...k-review-high-performance-for-the-mid-range/6

Also just a thought on the monitor, personally I'd get the one I linked above, but if you were wondering about spending more on a monitor then there are various other options - might be worth starting a thread in the monitor subforum to see if any of the guys that follow monitors more closely have any thoughts
 
I would advise getting a 1440p high fps monitor as was linked above instead of a 4k one.
1440p is plenty sharp and the extra frames make for an improved gaming experience.
4K at 60 FPS would need something like a 3080 if you want any sort of high settings
with ray-tracing, that starts to get expensive.
 
Great advice from GreatAuk above so I cant improve on his suggestions. If I was going for a 12th gen cpu in your situation then I would be looking at the 12100 or 12400, not the K not the F not the KF just the bog standard non letter version. They are generally cheaper than the K but also have the integrated gpu, put it with the above MSI B660 Mortar build and you are good to go.

4k on a 27" monitor is not really needed and like said above 1440p is a more sensible choice at that size and will save you money. 4k is extremely difficult to run at high fps and to do so you need 3080 or better so that gets expensive very fast.

Prices on DDR4 are excellent at the moment so if you are buying new then you may as well go for 2x16gb. 16gb is enough for most uses but some great deals on DDR4 at moment. Sometimes spupply and demand works in our favour.
 
I dont really need a 4k and one at more than 60hz. 1440p would be great and hopefully would get 30** gpu in a couple of months. But I will post in the monitor section about that

Think il get my parts sorted today, sort my room out and possibly put a order in ... excited now
 
audi-matt said:
I dont really need a 4k and one at more than 60hz. 1440p would be great and hopefully would get 30** gpu in a couple of months. But I will post in the monitor section about that

Think il get my parts sorted today, sort my room out and possibly put a order in ... excited now
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Post your final list before purchasing.
 
audi-matt said:
I only mainly used it as a general pc tbh. But I want to upgrade.
New uses are probably little bit of gaming. Office, media, and light social media content.
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I'm a little late but the bang for the buck CPU right now is the 12400. Maybe stretch to a 12600. Don't bother with the K versions - overclocking gains are limited. So you won't need an AIO; an ordinary air cooler will do. And you won't need a Z-series motherboard.
 
Quartz said:
I'm a little late but the bang for the buck CPU right now is the 12400. Maybe stretch to a 12600. Don't bother with the K versions - overclocking gains are limited. So you won't need an AIO; an ordinary air cooler will do. And you won't need a Z-series motherboard.
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Yeah I personally prefer overclocking a bit so I always go for the K versions but if the OP goes for a non K then I wouldn't bother with an AIO
 
audi-matt said:
I want Intel this time round
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As commented by @Quartz - the sweet spot is 12400. Overclocking isn't anywhere near as valuable as it was 10 years ago. I don't bother and (in my opinion) neither should you based on your described use case. Consider saving a buck and going for the value pick. Maybe put it towards an upgrade another decade down the line.
audi-matt said:
Mobo - I don't really have a clue.. m.2 is a benefit, WiFi too but not essential.
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The cheaper one suggested above by @GreatAuk also has good VRMs, just in case you want to move to a newer 13th gen Intel in the future, and they turn out to be more power hungry.
audi-matt said:
Graphics- on-board graphics would suffice
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Cool - 4000 series from nVidia is out soon, so waiting a few months may be a smart move
audi-matt said:
Ram - 16gb enough these days ?
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Yes - 16 is enough at the moment, especially for the use case you described. Board has 4 slots so you can always add another 32gb or 16gb later.
audi-matt said:
AiO - I'd like a corsair h100-150 maybe depending on. Overall cost
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Artic Freezer line is better, although I think a 240 will be enough and saves a fair bit.
audi-matt said:
I have a 1tb ssd, but would buy a 1tb m.2
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Can't beat the suggested m.2 from @GreatAuk above
audi-matt said:
I have a corsair 700d case
I have a good PSU
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Noice - what wattage is that PSU?
audi-matt said:
And a good 27inch monitor please.
Is 4k needed? Or what's people running g these days
1080? But with better refresh rate ?
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People are moving from 1080p to 1440p. Latest features people are interested in include HDR and high refresh rate.

audi-matt said:
Any advice and some potentional cpu/mobile combos would be great as this is the biggest unknown for me
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I would suggest looking at the Apple A13 Bionic in the iPhone SE, this was a bit of a non-sequitur?


audi-matt said:
Budget probs no more 1k for cpu, mobo, cooler and ram. Ideally more towards to 750 mark
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CPU, Mobo, Cooler, RAM and nvme drive:

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £600.86 (includes delivery: £0.00)​







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Frustratingly the Freezer Pro II is on order. Suggest using the stock cooler until the AIO arrives.

Monitor (was this intended to be in the £1000 budget?):

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £468.95 (includes delivery: £0.00)​



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