Baby seat for a 2 year old

[lordrobs]

After much research we went for a Cosatto All-in-All Rotate which goes up to a theoretical 12 years old with extended rear facing if we choose to do that. Little one should still have at least another month and a half in his group 0+ seat but my wife is struggling to limbo his lanky frame under the roof of her Polo without donking his head so we decided to go for a spinning seat. Seemed a cheaper option than an SUV Should be fitting it in this weekend.

We did have a slight wobble when we started reading bad reviews about Cosatto safety but despite my best efforts I couldn't see any reference beyond a particular seat that didn't rate that highly in ADAC and a whole load of Facebook and Mumsnet "expert" hyperbole.

 

[gailjon]

Hey Diagro, can I sign up to your parenting guru site? You must have one because you sure do like to tell everyone else that they are wrong. How did my children survive without your guidance? I am surprised that without your guidance that any child survives.

 

[adam cool dude]

That is one way to think about it. Although, I'd not class having legs slightly bent "squashed".

Why cause some minor discomfort? Priorities.

I prioritise my children's LIFE over minor discomfort. You CANNOT trust other road users. Each time you take a child out onto a road its a statistical risk of major harm and or death. If using a rear facing seat (which may or may not cause minor leg discomfort) drastically reduces the chance of major injury or death. I know what my choice is.

You could be punted off a road backwards into a ditch. A forward facing seat will give more protection in that event

 

[Diagro]

I guess it must stunt growth too as my 2 year old (3 in September) is 105CM. His legs are too big for rear facing.

People here talk about having them in a rear facing seat till 7. Lol my daughter was in booster way before then and by 8 was sitting in a seat without any aid although she stayed in the back till she was older.

Plus spinal injuries in children is near enough the same as adults in terms of outcome and recovery. The huge risk is when they are babies. After six months to a year it is fine.

Stunt gro

You must have it in chill mode then as I believe there's vids of people being held in place by the acceleration. Ive only got a lowly model 3 performance, but it can still pin you back. I get physics (it's what my degree is in), and I know its all about has quickly/slowly the energy is disapated. Ultimately its a choice, and I don't believe the large discomfort is offset by the small chance of a crash (think about how many times you drive vs how many times youve had a crash at a speed that would be fatal for a forward facing child). I know what the statistics say, but I'm going with the more likely injury which in my mind is from acceleration not deceleration (my thinking being that I read the road pretty well and try to avoid getting into these situations). Also I strongly disagree that parenting affects how well behaved a child is in terms of front/rear facing. Critical all you want but everyone is entitled to an opinion, its one of the benefits to free speech.

Just put of interest when do you plan on taking them out of rear facing (this is a general question for people not just you), and where do you draw the line 6, 7, 10, 15? Reading up on it is a bit vague, and I can't imagine even my son sitting backwards, he'd end up choking on his knees. I know some of the European countries are keen on it upto a certain age, but I just keep thinking that everything someone hits something, chances are it's a car so you be getting similar forces except in the opposite direction (obviously car mass will come into play and crumble zones and the fact that it's a very inelastic collision). I'm also ignoring the fact that at high speeds car seats are going to do very little anyway (on both sides).

When he's too tall for it. I expect 6yrs old.

 

[Diagro]

Hey Diagro, can I sign up to your parenting guru site? You must have one because you sure do like to tell everyone else that they are wrong. How did my children survive without your guidance? I am surprised that without your guidance that any child survives.

Typical nonsense response.

Just scroll past if I've hurt your parental nerve.

 

[Resident]

I'd look at the Recaro products, the Young Sport Hero would suit you, as it would last until they can be sat alone. I speak from actual experience how good they are, especially the extra side impact protection, my son was in the rear of the car in his Recaro Monza Nova 2 when we were hit pretty hard in the side right where he was sitting in the back, the head support really helped stop and sudden neck/head movements, and the impact to his side/ribs was also lessened due to it.

I'd never scrimp on a safety seat in a car, especially given how stupid a great deal of drivers are.

We have Recaro Sport Hero for our two. They're great, kids say they're comfy. Only thing missing is a cup holder.

But.. it doesn't even have ISOFIX putting the onus on installing it correctly on the parents, which is a risk.

You're also making your life a living nightmare for any long journeys putting a 7 year old facing backwards.

These backward facing seats are all well and good for babies but think it's preying on parents' fears for older kids.

Clearly you both have not used one or an appropriate rear facing seat before for that age.

But that's your choice. Even if its a wrong one

Our daughter was turned forward facing as soon as she reached a weight that the manufacturer and our paediatrician had agreed to. Facing rearward she was getting into mental distress (she's now 5 and quite an anxious child), particularly when she was in the back on her own.

As for a 7 year old over 1m tall and still rear-facing, is he still breastfed too?

 

[rodenal]

Ultimately the change to forward facing is a balance of risk / comfort / lack of whining from the back seats that only each parent can make. No point in it becoming a contentious internet issue.

We tried to keep our oldest rear facing as long as possible but in practice I'm almost certain she had turned round when she was around 3, similar with our youngest who is 3 and currently forward facing. I also need to buy another booster style seat for her soonish as one of our car seats is still the older style that goes to circa 4 years old. Already got 2 Diono Monterey seats for our oldest so will potentially get more of those as they're a good balance of protection/ isofix locating and cupholders etc