The wife has her first car. A couple of questions, if you will.

Interesting the response on P plates - while I certainly take notice and give more space, my general observation is that most people treat them in the same way as learners - i.e. an obstacle which shouldn't be on their road - and drive accordingly, e.g. tailgating, dangerous overtakes, and other general aggressive behaviour.
 
We have 3 kids, so yeah a car is really needed. They are missing out on loads with us not having a car which was our own doing as we both smoked and couldn't afford one. My wife has to catch busses and at weekends, taxis to and from work. This costs £50 per week.
We are both fully aware of the costs of owning a car, £300 spent on a car per month is better than £300 on tobacco is it not. Plus we can enjoy going out to kids parties because we can now actually get them there, a day trip to nature reserve, any Tussauds attractions out of our reach are not now. We can go camping over weekends, get the kids out and about. We have a full world of adventure open to us now. If its costs an extra £50 on top of our daily use in fuel to drive to the Lake district with the kids for a week end, its a small price to pay. Rather that than stay at home or go to the local chav park.

So to us, yes it is essential.
Sounds like valid case to get a car to be fair.

However, not teaching you to suck eggs but bear in mind tobacco is addictive, so saying "we will save £300/month by not smoking" might not be that straightforward. 13 hour shifts and 3 kids. Family bereavement. Stress is piling up. Gonna get myself a box of 20 to tide me over. I've stopped before so can do it again.

You also need to factor in maintenance costs for 12 year old used cars which can be inherently volatile, you might have no problem running it but at 48k miles it is probably on the original clutch for example, and having averaged about 4k miles a year that clutch has probably had to deal with a lot of short journeys. So what I'm saying is are you in position to field £500+ bills the car could start throwing up?
 
Also bear in mind tax and insurance costs too, that's likely going to add another £100+ a month on top. But it's still well worth it for the convenience :)
 
P plates yes will buy her a bit of good grace with other motorists and imo a dashcam is an essential purchase. covers your back in event of a claim and will instill a bit of piece of mind.
 
Aye. Back onto the subject at hand, I'm not sure I'd regard a dashcam as essential. I guess it's easy to say unless you're in a position where you're getting shafted and you know it's not your fault, but certainly most of the time it's not too difficult to tell who is at fault anyway.

That said, I do have one in my car. But luckily I never told my insurer I did because at the weekend my car was ploughed in to but for whatever reason, the one file on the SD card that was corrupt was the one of the incident itself. Luckily liability wasn't ever in question anyway, but I can only imagine how difficult it would be in a trickier situation if I had told insurance I had a dashcam and was asked to provide footage only to find out that the damn thing had messed up for some reason.
 
Guy asks for advice on P plates and dashcams. Gets money lectures like he's a child :o
Its the OcUK way! Also, why didn’t he buy a Mondeo? (Is that still a thing?)

My point wasn’t a dig at the money situation so hope it wasn’t taken as such, I just don’t think a dashcam is an essential purchase right off the bat for a new driver, there’s other things to worry about.
 
Its the OcUK way! Also, why didn’t he buy a Mondeo? (Is that still a thing?)

My point wasn’t a dig at the money situation so hope it wasn’t taken as such, I just don’t think a dashcam is an essential purchase right off the bat for a new driver, there’s other things to worry about.
but it was a question I asked. What have we to worry about? I am sure we have gone through everything with a fine comb before purchasing a car. We have both come from a really bad credit score (mid to high 2 digits to very low 3 digits) to great/verygood/perfect in 3 years. All credit cards paid off, mortgage paid off. So for future posts, don't worry about money on our side of things.

Maybe if I rephrase my op.
Wife got a car, we are looking for a dash cam, any advice on what to get?
 
You dont need to explain your financial situation Droolinggimp. Congrats on your progress though.

No one is criticising, especially not myself.

Coming back to your original questions, as I said, don’t prioritise a dashcam but get P plates, they’ll make a difference.
 
Yeah as a new driver i probably wouldn't get a dash cam yet at least as the chances of her causing the accident are way higher than it protecting you from anything else.

P plates, i'm not so sure. some people will give you more room but others see it as a ticket to take advantage of an in experienced driver by cutting you up and assuming you'll be dithering around on the road.
 
P plates, i'm not so sure. some people will give you more room but others see it as a ticket to take advantage of an in experienced driver by cutting you up and assuming you'll be dithering around on the road.

This has definitely been my experience, but then I live in the Midlands - looking at @Droolinggimp's profile, so does he. (at least there are now 2 of us on the road who actually have a licence!)
 
Well done pal.

Get her to go on a 'pleasure drive' as a matter of course, regularly. When my wife passed she only drove 'to places' and ended up hardly practicing at all. She's now a very nervous driver.
Mine is the same -take her away from shopping run and she just goes in a wobbly.
I won't be passenger if I can help it - Having her drive me home from Hospital is way worse than eye injections.
 
No to P plates. People are usually impatient and annoying around cars with them on. Essentially putting a target on the car
 
Well done pal.

Get her to go on a 'pleasure drive' as a matter of course, regularly. When my wife passed she only drove 'to places' and ended up hardly practicing at all. She's now a very nervous driver.

Surely you mean leasuire drive?? Pleasure drive might bring some more money in, mind.
 
No to P plates. People are usually impatient and annoying around cars with them on. Essentially putting a target on the car
Disagree with this. You’ll always notice idiots being idiots but neglect the majority of people that are being considerate.

If it gives her some confidence, thats the main thing.
 
The only reason we have decided to get a car is that we have both stopped smoking. We were spending going on £300 per month on baccy/filters etc. that money right there was our budget.
Seriously well done on getting of the smokes and putting the money saved towards improving your kids (and your own of course) lives. Top man.

And the below is the best bit of advice for a new driver. My driving instructor told me pretty much the same when I passed my test.
My main bit of advice would be to encourage her to explore in the car by taking different routes for regular journeys and visiting new places. By doing this she'll become a much more capable, confident and better driver.

I know many people who are super confident on their regular journeys, but if they have to stray from their comfort zone, their confidence disappears and so does their driving ability.
 
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