Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Frankly, I call BS.

As for the Boris offer, that is great, as long as Ukraine doesn't fall and that training falls to Russia/China. Plus, training takes time, which is what Ukraine doesn't really have. This would need to be new recruits in my opinion, and not pulling people from the front.
 
Looks like Ukraine is going to lose her eastern region. Russian gains seem unstoppable now.

This has exploded in the last hour. Guess we find out tomorrow :D


I'm not buying it.
 
Lots of [new] bluster from Lukashenko that Poland is about to invade western Ukraine, Belarus has moved additional mechanized elements to their south and west borders - that could get interesting in more ways than one. Seems like Lukashenko is increasingly being compelled to do more of substance to back up Russia.
 
This has exploded in the last hour. Guess we find out tomorrow :D

Wasn’t he speaking at some economic forum yesterday? Got delayed due to cyber attack or something so stream wasn’t working.
 
Good. I hope that other countries will follow suit. I watched a really good video on the Falklands war earlier. We are quite capable as a fighting force.
When 'yomping' entered into daily language. Walking into battle across miles of relatively trackless terrain.
 
When 'yomping' entered into daily language. Walking into battle across miles of relatively trackless terrain.
Yea, the Marines term for walking miles over difficult terrain with an 80 pound pack on.

I did some of the Marines training in Lympstone Commando in an attempt to join the Marines when I was a kid. Those guys are mega mega fit by the time they pass out of the 30 weeks training course.
 
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18-Jun-2022 06:25:57 - UK Military Intelligence: In Last 48 Hours, Russia Likely Renewed Efforts to Advance South of Izium, With Goal Of Advancing Deeper Into Donetsk Oblast
18-Jun-2022 06:28:18 - UK Military Intelligence: Ukrainian Civilians Trapped in Sieverodonetsk Likely to Be Suspicious of Using Unilaterally-Declared ‘Humanitarian’ Corridor

18-Jun-2022 09:49:43 - UK PM Johnson: The Russians Are Grinding Forward Inch by Inch in Ukraine
18-Jun-2022 09:49:43 - UK PM Johnson: Must Make Sure the Ukrainians Aren’t Encouraged to Go For a Bad Peace Deal That Wouldn’t Endure
18-Jun-2022 09:49:43 - UK PM Johnson: Ukraine Fatigue Is Setting In, It Is Important to Show We Are Supporting Them for the Long Haul

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Lots of [new] bluster from Lukashenko that Poland is about to invade western Ukraine, Belarus has moved additional mechanized elements to their south and west borders - that could get interesting in more ways than one. Seems like Lukashenko is increasingly being compelled to do more of substance to back up Russia.

Given the previous reluctance to get involved, it could well just be a ploy to keep the risk of invasion there ergo force Ukraine to keep more troops and equipment tied up there than they'd otherwise want to. He then doesn't have the risk of actually committing to the invasion (and possible uprising/civil disorder etc.. that follows) but he also satisfies Putin by "helping" further.
 
This has exploded in the last hour. Guess we find out tomorrow :D


That was a rumour on the 14th on twitter IIRC, it's been 4 days since, does anyone know of any confirmed public appearances by Putin since then?

Would be nice if true, there was plenty of stuff about this operation he apparently needs and obvs a big risk at his age especially if seriously ill so that sort of thing does seem plausible if/when he has/has had his operation I guess. I'm just wary as there have been other rumours/apparent int re: say Shoygu dying of a heart attack which turned out to be false and Gerasimov being seriously injured in an attack, he might have been injured but it was perhaps exaggerated.
 
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Besides obviously agreeable things, like US awfulness in nearly everything, you omit and twist a lot.

What do you think is the main reason Sweden & Finland want to join NATO?

I'd say ex-Soviet/Warsaw and other states want to join NATO mainly because most of them have been subject to decades or even centuries of Russian violence, oppression and harassment. Russia has literally committed genocide against Ukraine, weaponising famine to kill almost as many people died in the holocaust. Most of the Baltics, Poland, Hungary and other ex-Warsaw Pact states have been subject to overt Russian military aggression both recently and in the not-too-distant past. Russia had decades of disproportionate influence over e.g. Poland that they could've done anything with, like very positive things, but their treatment resulted in Poland being the most hawkish European NATO member against Russia; and simultaneously Poland threw Biden under the bus regarding sending planes back when the Russians were in the north too and Poland intentionally made Biden look even worse and in such a critical time (he deserved all the criticism I saw, BTW). The world's not so simple and one-sided as you spew.
Thanks for first part.

I have seen these words repeated many times 'committed genocide' by most of your American Presidents speeches just like George W Bush over Iraq war but in fact it was it not American drone/air force strikes that killed women & children and peace is a slogan for the frightened fools in US…warmongering tax payers as they spread there media propaganda over "World democracy.” USA government is worlds worst human rights abuser when it comes to international law and to see why it don't work this way! Peace is the only way though talks, we learn what the America’s wars in the Middle East are doing petroleum-wars; business wars; wars for profit and power over Russia. The money…the profit…is in the arms, munitions, equipment and private contractor services run by the US government/third parties you don't read in the media the Chinese's/North Koreans are invading other countries or arming the people to wage war with the Legitimate Government of their country! As you talk about holocaust but forgot to mention about the worst genocide in world history on wars then the US was the first and the last to use nukes against not only on civilians, children but humans generally Hiroshima and Nagasaki are pretty known in history books what real genocide look like if this is how you show the world on leadership to other Nations God help us all.

And lets not forget when President Donald Trump and his allies promoted allegations of corruption focused on the relationship between Burisma and Hunter Biden. The Ukrainian government to announce an investigation of the younger Biden's role with Burisma and Burisma Holdings Limited is one of the largest private natural gas producers in Ukraine way before the war! Vice President Biden withheld loan guarantees to pressure Ukraine into firing a prosecutor Shokin. To prevent a corruption investigation into Burisma and to protect his son. Although the United States did withhold government aid to pressure Ukraine into removing the prosecutor Shokin. Burisma, The US conditioned the release of $1 billion in US government aid on a requirement that Ukraine fire its prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin February 2015 until March 2016, to prevent the company from being investigated for corruption. for those who don't know who is Shokin he was appointed by, and loyal to, Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko. Representatives of the EU and the United States pressed Poroshenko for his removal as did the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. An overwhelming majority vote in the Ukrainian Parliament in March 2016 led to Shokin's removal from office.

Ignored Warnings: How NATO Expansion Led to the Current Ukraine Tragedy today.

I am against wars, real genocide, holocaust, world dictators, corruption.
 
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My god these essays.
'You don't read it in the media' basically means that you either read it on your nans Facebook page or through some quack shot conspiracy forum where they provide zero evidence or stats for claims.

Did you also just call the holocaust not a real genocide? Jesus christ....
 
As you talk about holocaust but forgot to mention about the worst genocide in world history on wars then the US was the first and the last to use nukes against not only on civilians, children but humans generally Hiroshima and Nagasaki are pretty known in history books what real genocide look like if this is how you show the world on leadership to other Nations God help us all.

Dude seriously? The common number surrounding the Holocaust is between 5 and 6 million people died. While the use of nuclear weapons is catastrophic, a quick Google shows that 220,000 people died from the bombs dropped on Hiroshina and Nagasaki.

The fire bombing of Dresden by the RAF killed 25,000 people. Germany killed 40,000 people during the Blitz on Britain, that was just 7 months of sorties. What number satisfies you as a genocide? Heck Stalingrad cost the Russians 1.1 million casualties.
 
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