Stop you from doing what with your fake plates?
New 20mph speed limits for Wales
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Stop you from doing what with your fake plates?
For example. Making this 30 a 20 would be completely unsuitable.
25 MPH would make more sense as it is in many towns and cities in America. However the UK Highway Authorities seem to have a mental block when it comes to considering 5 MPH increments in speed rather than round 10's.
20 MPH is going to increase the emissions as driver's chug around in 2nd gear whereas 25 would be moderately comfortable in third.
There are a few 20 MPH zones around Swindon but as noted above, most people ignore them and continue doing just under 30.
And to be brutally honest, if you're unfortunate enough to land in the road with a van or lorry about to run you over, it's going to kill or seriously injure you whether the wheels roll over at 20 or 30 MPH.
20 MPH is going to increase the emissions as driver's chug around in 2nd gear whereas 25 would be moderately comfortable in third.
There are a few 20 MPH zones around Swindon but as noted above, most people ignore them and continue doing just under 30.
And to be brutally honest, if you're unfortunate enough to land in the road with a van or lorry about to run you over, it's going to kill or seriously injure you whether the wheels roll over at 20 or 30 MPH.
Pretty much anything.
Short of having an accident where your car is incapacitated, then your screwed.
Drive around until you see the same type and colour car as your driving around, copy the plate, swap it around every few months.
I'm not seriously considering this, but in an age where more and more automation seems like this is becoming easier to get away with?
Everything is enforced and traced back within camera's and your car registration.
Ah, you've brought up the reason why there's barely half a toss given about cyclists potentially breaking speed limits.
It's super rare for any kind of cyclist based collision to result in dead bodies or expensive damage or even worse, a road closure
My personal favourite up here was them building a bypass for a town.
The town has a 30 limit and its a straight road.
The bypass is 40, has a massive bend and a load of roundabouts.
Nobody uses the bypass.
Shiremoor for those in the know.
Motor vehicle speed limits only apply to motor vehicles surprisingly enough.
Cyclists don't legally have to have a speedometer, so how do you apply a speed limit to them?
They can, however, be charged with pedalling furiously.
It's super rare for any kind of cyclist based collision to result in dead bodies or expensive damage or even worse, a road closure
Rare but I wouldn't say super rare - there are the cases which made headlines like Ermir Loka and Charlie Alliston. I can recall at least 4 instances around where I live where old people have died due to a collision with a cyclist over recent years. In almost all cases due to recklessness on the part of the cyclist and/or riding modified bikes in an inappropriate manner.
Same with expensive damage - what tends to happen there is the cyclist doesn't hang around to own up to it though it is less likely than a collision involving a car.
lots of electric 'bikes' on cambridge roads - so police could definitely analyse if the bike alone is providing assistance above ~15mph;
two guys I see regularly one commuter always doing about 25mph zero effort on the pedals(maybe 30rpm), another older guy who does multiple circuits on local road for 'fitness'
two guys I see regularly one commuter always doing about 25mph zero effort on the pedals(maybe 30rpm), another older guy who does multiple circuits on local road for 'fitness'
I'll stick with super rare since the total killed by cyclists last year was 3, seriously injured 120 and total injured being 531. If you know of four local cycling related deaths you must be at the epicentre of reckless cycling.
Can't find the page that publication used but the total for road casualties last year was 1560 dead, 25739 seriously injured and 127967 of all kinds.
By comparison, we've got e-scooters kicking off with power at a switch leaving cyclists in the dust: 9 dead, 390 seriously injured, 1359 total and they're not even legal in most of the country
Number of pedestrians injured by cyclists reaches all-time high, government figures reveal - Jersey Evening Post
Statistics show that bike riders were at fault for more collisions and injuries than ever before
www.jerseyeveningpost.com
Reported road casualties Great Britain: e-Scooter factsheet 2021
A summary of statistics on e-scooter casualties in reported road collisions in Great Britain to the end of 2021.
I'll stick with super rare since the total killed by cyclists last year was 3, seriously injured 120 and total injured being 531. If you know of four local cycling related deaths you must be at the epicentre of reckless cycling.
Can't find the page that publication used but the total for road casualties last year was 1560 dead, 25739 seriously injured and 127967 of all kinds.
By comparison, we've got e-scooters kicking off with power at a switch leaving cyclists in the dust: 9 dead, 390 seriously injured, 1359 total and they're not even legal in most of the country
I'm surprised it average 2.5 a year - at least one of those has been within the region I live then for several of the last few years. Given 120 seriously injured though I'd not dismiss it so lightly as super rare.
As for e-scooters I see at least one if not more, not used within the legal framework, most days when I'm out and about. Not uncommonly rode with a complete disregard for road rules. Someone (intentionally I think) ran down a pair of clowns who were riding them to intentionally frustrate drivers around where I work - I can't be 100% sure it was the same pair but the description, time and place matches where they were often being a pain. ( https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news...-investigation-continues-after-yeovil-6080988 )
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Do they not count as traffic signs, therefore section 69 should apply. Obviously, prosecution is another matter.
The Highway Code - Rules for cyclists (59 to 82) - Guidance - GOV.UK
Rules for cyclists, including an overview, road junctions, roundabouts and crossing the road.
Yes, but not all traffic sign rules apply to all traffic.Do they not count as traffic signs, therefore section 69 should apply. Obviously, prosecution is another matter.
The Highway Code - Rules for cyclists (59 to 82) - Guidance - GOV.UK
Rules for cyclists, including an overview, road junctions, roundabouts and crossing the road.www.gov.uk
All cars must obey traffic signs but when you come to a traffic sign which prohibits access to vehicles over a certain weight it doesn't prohibit all cars from using the road - just vehicles over the weight limit.
Similarly, if you come to a sign indicating the speed limit for motor vehicles and you're not using a motor vehicle then that doesn't apply to you.
Cycling and the law - Cyclescheme
Not all laws for motorists apply to cyclists, and there are other laws that apply only to cyclists. Here are some examples that might surprise you…
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To those in this thread who've basically stated that they think that speed limits are arbitrary and can be broken whenever you fancy it. My assumption being that you typically speed unless you're behind traffic anyway. Either way, my thanks for:
- Setting the "example" and that it's fairly normal to break the speed limits. I don't care if you have the driving skills of Lewis H. What I care about is the "role model" that you set for others and the fact that a large group of the population also now seem to think that it's OK
- By breaking the speed limits, you're also setting the example that it's OK to ignore other road rules. How many times recently have you seen people happily wandering over to the other side of the road, massively cutting corners, driving the wrong way in signposted cars parks, just because it's a bit more convenient for them
- Yes, it would be great if speed limits took account of road conditions, e.g. rain, pedestrians, visibility. Now consider the cost to actually do that. Will YOU pay for it?
- By currently speeding, you're the people FUNDING the current speed cameras. If you STOPPED speeding, speed cameras would probably be gone in a year
- Back to the point about the role model you're setting. What example do you think that you're setting to the less responsible amongst us? Again, if that didn't exist, we probably wouldn't have the plethora of speed humps that I have to carefully negotiate
Seriously guys, you seem to think that you're ENTITLED to break the speed limits. That "role model" is screwing over everyone else.
Stop being to damn selfish, be polite and then maybe we can have roads that are a lot more pleasant to drive on, and it's acceptable to have the odd spot of fun.
- Setting the "example" and that it's fairly normal to break the speed limits. I don't care if you have the driving skills of Lewis H. What I care about is the "role model" that you set for others and the fact that a large group of the population also now seem to think that it's OK
- By breaking the speed limits, you're also setting the example that it's OK to ignore other road rules. How many times recently have you seen people happily wandering over to the other side of the road, massively cutting corners, driving the wrong way in signposted cars parks, just because it's a bit more convenient for them
- Yes, it would be great if speed limits took account of road conditions, e.g. rain, pedestrians, visibility. Now consider the cost to actually do that. Will YOU pay for it?
- By currently speeding, you're the people FUNDING the current speed cameras. If you STOPPED speeding, speed cameras would probably be gone in a year
- Back to the point about the role model you're setting. What example do you think that you're setting to the less responsible amongst us? Again, if that didn't exist, we probably wouldn't have the plethora of speed humps that I have to carefully negotiate
Seriously guys, you seem to think that you're ENTITLED to break the speed limits. That "role model" is screwing over everyone else.
Stop being to damn selfish, be polite and then maybe we can have roads that are a lot more pleasant to drive on, and it's acceptable to have the odd spot of fun.
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I live in one of the places that this was trailed so have lived with it for a good 3 years now. Generally I'm fine with 20 in actual residential streets, especially since you now often have cars parked the whole down one side of the road.
however in some places where visibility is clear and there's no houses (onto the road/pavement) it doesn't really make much sense.
however in some places where visibility is clear and there's no houses (onto the road/pavement) it doesn't really make much sense.