It is the language though isn't it. Filtration just sounds like the latest pr suitable word for organising people into certain groups.
From which the media will then use, and spin certain images.
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It is the language though isn't it. Filtration just sounds like the latest pr suitable word for organising people into certain groups.
From which the media will then use, and spin certain images.
Or for maximum effect if they know where the trucks are, wait until they've stopped to unload, preferably with several in the same location and then hit them whilst they're being unloaded.
It would almost certainly lead to far more casualties given the way the Russians load/unload everything is basically by hand, but take out the trucks, take out the ammo they were carrying and hopefully make the Russians very paranoid about it happening and thus make them far more cautious and slow them down even more if they had to start taking precautions such as having fewer people working at a time.
Literally every civilian?
Literally?
Wonder how long it would take before as a reaction they started using palletised loads more, keeping depots more spread out/better defended and so on.
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I wonder if we're edging towards escalate to de-escalate, if they're claiming occupied regions as actual Russia now, seems possible if HIMARS are a game changer for Ukraine and Russians end up frustrated with not being able to deal with them conventionally
Probably a while, from what I understand Russians simply don't use palletised/mechanical assistance like the west does, and it takes a long time to update to make use of it as for example apparently something like 25% of US "5 ton" trucks have cranes to assist, almost all of the western heavy artillery/rocket launch vehicles are designed with it built in and the shipping crates to match.
It's not even "just" the military, apparently much of their internal freight doesn't use it, which means they don't even have a large supply of forklifts, especially the sort of forklifts that can operate safely (or at all) on uneven ground in civilian use to "borrow".
At this point I'm starting to get surprised that we're not seeing pictures of the Russians loading all the forklifts they can onto the back of transports but I don't know how much Ukraine uses them (I suspect if the Ukrainians think they might be of use to the Russians they'll start destroying/damaging any they can before moving out of an area to stop them of being useful to the Russians).
The russians still rely very heavily on wooden packing for their munitions, which makes things even harder as those wooden crates aren't really suited for using with pallets (not necessarily designed to fit on them/be secured easily), whilst western munitions tend to use metal/plastic transport frames that are both specifically designed with palletisation methods in mind (IE places for lifting mechanisms/fork lifts to get a hold), and higher density in transport as if you're using mechanised systems you don't need to worry about weight so much and have been for decades, so even if the Russians started to do it now it would be a makeshift effort and likely not anything like as efficient.
I was watching a video of one of the US rocket systems and from memory it was almost entirely automated so the delivery truck could drop the rockets off quickly, move away and then the launch vehicle just required someone to attach something like 4 quick release cables to each shipping pod.
As greater levels of advanced MLRS get delivered to Ukraine, I do wonder if we will see greater holes in Russian effectiveness appear.
No air superiority over Ukraine, poor reconnaissance abilities (as shown by needing the drones from Iran posted earlier), limited accurate counter battery ability, and also what are the imaging capabilities from Russian satellites like? If all HIMARS systems are still in action, then the more that get delivered the pain will only increase.
Will this eventually force the stalemate so that ceasfire/peace talks can start? Or will the advantage be such that Ukraine eventually starts retaking ground.
No air superiority over Ukraine, poor reconnaissance abilities (as shown by needing the drones from Iran posted earlier), limited accurate counter battery ability, and also what are the imaging capabilities from Russian satellites like? If all HIMARS systems are still in action, then the more that get delivered the pain will only increase.
Will this eventually force the stalemate so that ceasfire/peace talks can start? Or will the advantage be such that Ukraine eventually starts retaking ground.
Apparently the problem for Russia is they have too few high res imagery capable satellites with limited on demand capability compared to the US - I don't know the details exactly but apparently the high end Russian satellites are only half the resolution of high-end commercial operators while the US military ones are twice the resolution of high-end commercial imagery.
Dude they're arresting anyone who calls this war a war in Russia, of course any Ukrainian who isn't begging for mercy, worshiping Pushkin and thanking Putin for 'saving' them is being filtrated into a grave or worse.
lol some of these posts, so if you don't thank Putin then you get put into a grave or worse ?
The Ukraine has similar laws for pro Russian supporters - anti Collaboration Laws. That's without the martial law.
'Under anti-collaboration laws recently enacted in Ukraine, offenders face up to 15 years in prison for collaborating with Russian forces, making public denials about Russian aggression or supporting Moscow.' - plenty of sources on web. Think legit. Point out if not.
Neither country is currently very 'free' for people to speak their minds. Both are pretty draconian.
Suspected of being on the 'wrong side' for anyone over there, isn't going to be nice.
Well if they're arresting Muscovites for being even mildly suspected of criticism of the Russian government then owing to centuries of unbroken Russian oppression of conquered minorities it should stand to reason that they treat Ukrainians who they happily derogate with the term 'Kulak' rather more unpleasantly.
There will never be peace talks, Putler wants Ukrain to cede territory, he has made that clear, Zelenski will never allow this.
Two reasons, you dont hand over your territory to your enemy and even if you did you know they would just come back for more, Crimea proved that.
Putler leaves now he knows he woulnt be able to try again in his lifetime.
A possible slight difference is that Ukraine enacted them after they were invaded.
Putin in russia has been routinely killing his opponants for years, and putting anyone who could be a threat to his power in jail, even if their only crime was to run against him in an election.
That and Ukraine is punishing falsehoods akin to holocaust denial whilst Russia isn't.
Putin and/or those close to him have talked of wiping Ukraine as an identity off the map - that leaves very little room for peace talks, even if the next minute Putin is talking about how:
And tends, along with other things, to indicate that Putin won't just settle for some bits of territory.
Interestingly they don't seem to care to subjugate the people of Ukraine - Putin just wants the territory to become Russia. Doesn't seem to care if people leave the country, even seems to prefer it if they aren't pro-Russia. Possibly because they struggle with the man power for both front line and policing/control of occupied territory.
There is only two scenarios under which I could see Ukraine being happy to hand Russia territory.
1) Russia utterly defeats Ukraine in battle which seems unlikely
2) Ukraine gets something tangible in return - just handing over territory with a peace treaty does nothing, Russia will come back for more in a few years, they've shown that to be true. The West needs to give Ukraine something tangible - for example they can come up with some agreement that Ukraine hands over some territory and in return the West either puts Ukraine into NATO or signs a comprehensive defence agreement that basically gaurantees WW3 if Russia comes back and this would need to include the stationing of western defences along the border between Ukraine and the new Russian border
1) Russia utterly defeats Ukraine in battle which seems unlikely
2) Ukraine gets something tangible in return - just handing over territory with a peace treaty does nothing, Russia will come back for more in a few years, they've shown that to be true. The West needs to give Ukraine something tangible - for example they can come up with some agreement that Ukraine hands over some territory and in return the West either puts Ukraine into NATO or signs a comprehensive defence agreement that basically gaurantees WW3 if Russia comes back and this would need to include the stationing of western defences along the border between Ukraine and the new Russian border
One of the problems is the nature of some of the territory - Ukraine has/had a big (relatively) defence industry in some parts i.e. Kharkiv, other areas were big for things like coal mining, etc. even with guarantees they can't just give up some percentage of territory in the name of peace without there being further repercussions/considerations.
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