2nd hand car for 18 year old

Isn’t the Aygo, C1 and the Pug equivalent of that era essentially the same car, made in the same factory?

I wouldn’t be pigeonholing down any particular brand or car at this end of the market as you really are looking for a gem within the rough. A lot of cars will simply be ‘well used’ and finding something in good nick with a decent history is the most import thing. Oh and the driver actually needs to like/want the car.
 
Yeah I gave her this list and told her to choose one, but if she really wants something else I won't stop her.

hyundai i10
honda jazz
toyota yaris
toyota aygo
ford fiesta
vw polo/golf
skoda fabia
suzuki swift

Didn't know the citroen c1, aygo and pug are basically the same.
 
I'd remove the Aygo from that list.
As an ex Toyota tech, I can say that they do not age well at all, and they weren't great from new.
 
2k really doesn't go far these days but I don't think it's been mentioned but a Mazda2 depending on where you live might be doable.

Pretty unassuming car but would be well specced for the money or just get a fiesta. Loads about and parts/ spares are cheap.

As budget is tight it might all come down to what is cheaper to insure. Just remember to get her to add parents/older siblings maybe even grandparents to her policy as named drivers as it brings it down quite a bit.
 
Rroff said:
Not been my uncles experience with Kia sadly. Him and some other driving instructors he works with swapped their cars to Kias this year and they've all had no end of trouble (largely alternator/electronics related) - ironically swapping from Citroen C3s which they had pretty much no problems with. I believe my uncle is on his 4th now.
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Quoting my own post - but they got to the bottom of this - seems the regenerative "hybrid" system on the cars doesn't like the vehicle being stalled as frequently as happens with a learner car - getting only a fraction of the on paper numbers for life span if it happens regularly in a short space of time. Resulting in it packing up after ~6 weeks or less. As they were sold as suitable for use as an instructor car they've fully refunded and getting them vehicles without the system.
 
scaza said:
Toyota Aygo
Citroen C1
Peugeot 107

Same car wearing different clothes. Great car for a first time driver. Cheap to buy, cheap to insure and cheap to tax.

The Mrs purchased an Aygo for her first car, to run for a year before she got something 'Nicer'. Three years later, the Aygo is still here, as it costs so little to run and maintain.

The main common issue you'll see online is often clutch wear - Earlier models had a smaller clutch plate that was really required, luckily enough if there was to be any issues, any replacement clutch will be the larger clutch plate that's fitted, for a total cost of ~£300 at an independent.
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got the wife a 2008 aygo, had for 5 years now its fantastic. going into getting one i knew about the clutch and waterpumps on the older cars so went in for a car that was cheap enough so i could budget the cost in for those parts. revised water pump was round 80 quid and although the car i got had 60k on it and clutch was already replaced i think i managed to bust the clutch in a fast dump where the springs in it broke. cost 200 all in for new clutch and used the blueprint brand one that has 6 springs instead of the one that was in that car that had 3 springs. siezed alternator cost 80 quid to replace too.
with 20 quid for the year tax its worth keeping one around for local runs. get 40mpg intown short journeys with the wifes driving which is hardly economical.
 
If you want something fun which is dirt cheap to insure then get an MGTF and put it on classic car insurance. A friend of mine has just got his newly passed son one. He had looked at a 1l polo but the insurance was £1600 per annum for that whereas it was only £495 on the MGTF.
 
Greebo said:
If you want something fun which is dirt cheap to insure then get an MGTF and put it on classic car insurance. A friend of mine has just got his newly passed son one. He had looked at a 1l polo but the insurance was £1600 per annum for that whereas it was only £495 on the MGTF.
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This was my first car and it was great! Insurance wasn’t as bad as you might think and they’re relatively frugal. Yes, the usual MG/Rover reliability issues can rear their heads but it’s never hugely expensive to rectify.

There’s a huge selection of MGTFs available for very little money. They are getting on a bit so some will be a bit tatty. I don’t think you’d lose any money come sale time either given they are within this budget.

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tom_nieto said:
This was my first car and it was great! Insurance wasn’t as bad as you might think and they’re relatively frugal. Yes, the usual MG/Rover reliability issues can rear their heads but it’s never hugely expensive to rectify.

There’s a huge selection of MGTFs available for very little money. They are getting on a bit so some will be a bit tatty. I don’t think you’d lose any money come sale time either given they are within this budget.

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I'd imagine a Mk. 1 MX-5 would be similar if you can find one that hasn't disappeared into a cloud of red dust by now.
 
MissChief said:
I'd imagine a Mk. 1 MX-5 would be similar if you can find one that hasn't disappeared into a cloud of red dust by now.
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Insurance seems really expensive on these and MGF's for that matter.

My daughter was ranting an raving about fiat 500's so did some insurance quotes as in 2 years time she will be able to drive.

An Abarth 500 was £1300 a year with a black box and a Mito 155 was even a cheaper!. MX5's and MGF's were closer to 2 grand.
 
adam cool dude said:
Insurance seems really expensive on these and MGF's for that matter.

My daughter was ranting an raving about fiat 500's so did some insurance quotes as in 2 years time she will be able to drive.

An Abarth 500 was £1300 a year with a black box and a Mito 155 was even a cheaper!. MX5's and MGF's were closer to 2 grand.
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That’s interesting as a big factor for me going for a MGTF was the comparatively cheap insurance considering the performance. Times have changed clearly.

Do like our Fiat 500 as well, it’s very frugal on petrol and servicing is relatively cheap.

Mk1 MX5 will be way more expensive to buy than a TF if it’s rust free. You’re looking at a mk2 potentially and it’ll be bottom of the barrel stuff.
 
tom_nieto said:
That’s interesting as a big factor for me going for a MGTF was the comparatively cheap insurance considering the performance. Times have changed clearly.

Do like our Fiat 500 as well, it’s very frugal on petrol and servicing is relatively cheap.

Mk1 MX5 will be way more expensive to buy than a TF if it’s rust free. You’re looking at a mk2 potentially and it’ll be bottom of the barrel stuff.
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I was hoping they would be cheaper as I would use it as an excuse to get a 2 seater convertible for the daughter and I could use it on summer days for myself ;)
 
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