New gaming PC around 4k budget

Chaz93

Chaz93

Chaz93

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Hi all,

I'm looking at finally getting a new PC when the AMD 7 series comes out (my current PC is 10 years old rocking the sandy bridge series CPU).

Until the 4k series Nvidia cards come out I'm also thinking at purchasing a second hand 2080 ti in the meantime.

What setup would you recommend for 1440p gaming? Open to any ideas/suggestions.
 
£4k is quite a large budget, you could easily build a PC for 1440p60 gaming for half that. Not suggesting you do so, just saying your budget is...ample :)

If you're comfortable buying used GPUs I'd recommend a 30 series, with the imminent release of the 40 series cards the 30 series are plummeting in price.
 
I absolutely hear you and I know you're right. My thinking is though I've gone the last 10 years pretty much skimping and it's more of a treat at this point for many years of hard work.

I'm torn between spending less (AMD 7600x, £200 ish motherboard, and a second hand GPU like you mentioned) or going with a 7950x, a more expensive motherboard, and for now a 2080ti until the 4090 comes out.
 
Chaz93 said:
Hi all,

I'm looking at finally getting a new PC when the AMD 7 series comes out (my current PC is 10 years old rocking the sandy bridge series CPU).

Until the 4k series Nvidia cards come out I'm also thinking at purchasing a second hand 2080 ti in the meantime.

What setup would you recommend for 1440p gaming? Open to any ideas/suggestions.
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Yeah, nice.
7950X/4090/ROG X670/32GB DDR5/2x2TB pcie/Titanium psu + extras should get you to 4 grand nicely.
You may notice a slight speed bump over your Sandybridge rig ;)
 
7600x (wont need anything more powerful for gaming ) makes most sense as AMD are known for allowing multiple cpu upgrades on the same platform, basically AM5 should have longevity.
 
Yeah I was thinking 7950x would be complete overkill for gaming - would it be better to invest this saving in one of the more expensive x670 motherboards, or go with the pro x670-p wifi?
 
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Yeah I was thinking 7950x would be complete overkill for gaming - would it be better to invest this saving in one of the more expensive x670 motherboards, or go with the pro x670-p wifi?
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Don't overspend on the motherboard pick a board for you needs and put the money into a stronger gpu.
 
I would buy a more budget card as a stop gap than a 2080ti as its value will plummet more than a 2060/3060/6600/6600xt unles you have another use for it afterwards.

Unless your doing more than gaming then buying more than 8 core/16 threads is a waste of money in general.
Get 32 gig of ram as it will come into its own eventually.
 
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I would buy a more budget card as a stop gap than a 2080ti as its value will plummet more than a 2060/3060/6600/6600xt unles you have another use for it afterwards.
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Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want to sink £350-£400+ on a 3-4 year old 2080 Ti right now, best thing would be to use whatever the OP has got now, but if desperate I'd try to bag an ex-miner 6600, or 2060 for sub £200 (preferably around £150, since you can get a new RTX 2060 for as little as £220 and a new 6600 for £260). From what I heard, the low-end cards are supposed to release a lot later than the high-end ones, so should be a small window to get shot of it at a small loss.
 
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I can second the opinion that you shouldn't over spend on a motherboard unless you'll be overclocking. More expensive motherboards have better overclocking potential/stability but if nothing is overclocked a pricey motherboard won't be any faster than a cheaper one.

Look at the PC in my sig (which is still being used daily), that motherboard cost like £200 (maybe £250) and has been pretty good for overclocking, anything more expensive would have been a waste. Just get something from a well known brand like ASUS or MSI or similar.

GPU, I'm not the best one to give advice on this, but if I were you I'd buy a used 30series and try to make it last 2-3 years, skip the 40series altogether and buy either 50 or 60 series when they come out (assuming nvidia continues their naming scheme for the next 3 generation). Or alternatively buy something super cheap now (less than £200) and then buy a 40series when they are released.

Be sure to get a solid PSU, preferably Titanium rated. EVGA/beQuiet/Corsair/Seasonic make the best PSUs IMO.
 
Hey guys, want to thank you all for your feedback. For future proofing, is it not worth investing in a board though that can use DDR5?

If not, I'm thinking of getting the 5800X3D - or would a 11700KF like Ormy's be a better option to go with?
 
Chaz93 said:
Hey guys, want to thank you all for your feedback. For future proofing, is it not worth investing in a board though that can use DDR5?

If not, I'm thinking of getting the 5800X3D - or would a 11700KF like Ormy's be a better option to go with?
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The reviews of AM5 were only published today, so I think it'll take a little while, to get an idea how everything fits in.
 
Chaz93 said:
Hey guys, want to thank you all for your feedback. For future proofing, is it not worth investing in a board though that can use DDR5?

If not, I'm thinking of getting the 5800X3D - or would a 11700KF like Ormy's be a better option to go with?
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DDR5 right now is faster than fast DDR4 but not by much, and very few games care much about RAM speed. DDR4 will be fine for the next year or two at least but after that who knows. My previous machine was DDR3, and if I'd kept that going for another 6-12 months (which I could have done if I was happy to stay at 1080p60 for 6-12 more months) could have gone straight to DDR5 and skipped DDR4 entirely. The same might be possible for DDR5, you could buy fast DDR4 and it might last until DDR6 comes out, but that's a whole lot of 'if', personally I wouldn't take the chance.

So yeah I would get a DDR5-capable motherboard and CPU right now and some decent DDR5 that can be upgraded to high-end DDR5 in future.

CPU, don't buy an 11700K unless you find one used at a really good price, they're not a great value proposition now due to the 12 series being much faster for similar price and similar power usage. I'd go with an intel 12 series or an AMD CPU right now, or wait for intel 13th gen to be released and reviewed. If it were me with your budget and I needed to buy something right now I'd be buying a 12700K or 12900K or maybe the 5800X3D but I haven't really researched that one much. Or perhaps even a Zen 2 threadripper if I was feeling particularly adventurous (quad channel memory, mmmm).
 
Now that I have had time to think about the AM5 cpus it looks like a 5800X3D with a B550 mobo is the best option for gaming. Can put together 5800X3D+B550/X570+32 GB DDR4 for under £700 and this performs as well as anything else available in games. Put that in with a 3080 and you have a great system for next few years and you get to keep over £2k in your bank.

I would not be considering 11th gen intel at this time. Was poor when it was released and has not improved with time. Lot of good options with 12th gen intel and a 12700k is certainly an option.
 
I'm away for a work event so I have a few weeks before I can commit at best. Thanks again everyone, really appreciate the advice.
 
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I'm away for a work event so I have a few weeks before I can commit at best. Thanks again everyone, really appreciate the advice.
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FYI, Intel also announced pricing of 13th gen today, so in a few weeks time hopefully everything will have settled down a bit and the pros/cons of AM4/AM5 and 12/13th gen will be clearer.
 
I would not buy intel 13th gen until tech reviews of it are out and then only if the reviews are very positive. Now is a good time to buy a 12th gen, they have proven themselves to be decent and now 13th gen is out the 12th gen will drop in price or you might even find them on the used market as rich people upgrade from 12th to 13th gen.

5800X3D+B550/X570+32 GB DDR4 as suggested by Haz123 is also a great option right now, just make that you get decently fast RAM if going with DDR4.
 
As someone who appearas to hold onto a system for quite a long time, I wouldn't suggest going 5800x3d (its an absolute gaming beast for the money mind) but the platform is dead. With your budget I would suggest lower end ZEN4 with a b650 board (when they arrive in a week or two). This gives you 5800x3d gaming performance, much better productivity and a long lasting platform for future CPU upgrades. Chuck a decent current gen GFX card from either vendor in there and do not skimp on the display as thats essentially the only thing you see of your new high powered PC.
 
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At your budget you surely need to get a 4090!

If you are deciding to darasfixally reduce your budget as others suggested different story
 
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