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Manbatius said:
Just got off the phone with Octopus who confirm my tarriff is this going forward from October:

Electricity
Unit 50.09 per Kwh
Standing charge 48.29 per Kwh

Gas
Unit 14.63 per Kwh
Standing Charge 26.84 Per Kwh

Our usage is high so this equates to £385 a month.
I still think the tariff above is too high compared to what it should be, especially with it being the tracker tarriff. Seems there's nothing else I can do other than complain as I don't think new suppliers are taking on.
Feel like an idiot for having a direct debit set up that's for sure.
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Did you recently sign a fixed deal? as that sounds a bit like a fixed deal having the max discount applied.

Did you receive any emails from Octopus last week or so explaining your rates. Most seem to have.
 
Manbatius said:
Just got off the phone with Octopus who confirm my tarriff is this going forward from October:

Electricity
Unit 50.09 per Kwh
Standing charge 48.29 per Kwh

Gas
Unit 14.63 per Kwh
Standing Charge 26.84 Per Kwh

Our usage is high so this equates to £385 a month.
I still think the tariff above is too high compared to what it should be, especially with it being the tracker tarriff. Seems there's nothing else I can do other than complain as I don't think new suppliers are taking on.
Feel like an idiot for having a direct debit set up that's for sure.
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If you on a tracker of sort just ask to be put on the Standard Variable Rate instead. They should have advised that. They have always explained to me which one is cheapest etc when I have asked and there are zero fees to switch tariff types at Octopus. The SVR is like 34p electric and 10.3p gas unit wise.
 
Ironic Namesake said:
Indeed it’s a digital meter Polyphase 5219D-N to be precise (3 phase)

Wouldn’t there be no power if the consumer unit tripped?
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3 phase supply is hefty, are you running machinery of some description? Could you take some photos?

This won't be supplying a consumer unit, it will be supplying a distribution board of some kind, and yes I'd expect you to miss that if it had tripped.
 
Manbatius said:
Just got off the phone with Octopus who confirm my tarriff is this going forward from October:

Electricity
Unit 50.09 per Kwh
Standing charge 48.29 per Kwh

Gas
Unit 14.63 per Kwh
Standing Charge 26.84 Per Kwh

Our usage is high so this equates to £385 a month.
I still think the tariff above is too high compared to what it should be, especially with it being the tracker tarriff. Seems there's nothing else I can do other than complain as I don't think new suppliers are taking on.
Feel like an idiot for having a direct debit set up that's for sure.
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Standing charge per Kwh?
 
Manbatius said:
Just got off the phone with Octopus who confirm my tarriff is this going forward from October:

Electricity
Unit 50.09 per Kwh
Standing charge 48.29 per Kwh

Gas
Unit 14.63 per Kwh
Standing Charge 26.84 Per Kwh

Our usage is high so this equates to £385 a month.
I still think the tariff above is too high compared to what it should be, especially with it being the tracker tarriff. Seems there's nothing else I can do other than complain as I don't think new suppliers are taking on.
Feel like an idiot for having a direct debit set up that's for sure.
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Those quoted rates don't seem to match any of the historical Tracker caps, but are pretty much exactly what the Ofgem October cap rates would have been(before the government cap was announced) - they still don't seem to be correct. I'd wait and see if you get anything in writing from them before 1st October, but otherwise you should be able to drop to SVR with no penalty.

I'm in a similar position:

Electric is on Go at 35p/7.5p (which I'll be sticking with regardless, as even if the SVR day rate is 1p cheaper, the cheaper night rate makes up for it),
Gas is on the Tracker, capped at 16p. Waiting to find out what they plan to do with it, but if no support is announced I'll drop onto the SVR at the last minute, since ~6p/kWh is a huge difference, andI think it's unlikely that the rate is going to average out at < 10p over the winter
 
Has anyone tested power draw on devices with and without tapo smart plugs? I read an article claiming smart plus are only about 75% efficient so e.g. a 200w device would consume 250w using a smart plug.
 
I finally got the new details from Shell. We were on Flexible 7, the new one is called Energy Price Guarantee.

Your electricity rates are changing from 28.408p to 33.859p per kWh and your standing charge per day is changing from 51.62p to 52.64p.
Your gas rates are changing from 7.476p to 10.425p per kWh and your standing charge per day is changing from 27.22p to 28.48p.
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Applying that to our last bill changes it from £151.28 to £177.68. (423kWh elec and 89.11kWh gas over 31 days).
 
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A heads up regarding Octopus, unlikely to affect anyone here but seems their DD discount policies have changed, on the new SVR they now increase cost if not paying by DD.
 
chrcoluk said:
Why do PSUs have efficiency ratings then?

I take from your answer the 75% article is rubbish then if 1w = 1w usage.
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Right now, my PC is using 136w but the power draw from the wall is 150w, just over 90% efficiency (based on what my PSU stats are saying). The problem is, the plug socket isn't where the efficiency needs to come from.
 
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chrcoluk said:
Why do PSUs have efficiency ratings then?

I take from your answer the 75% article is rubbish then if 1w = 1w usage.
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A smart plug is just a socket extension with a switch that you can control remotely. The load (item plugged in) will draw the exact same amount of watts and the only additional power will be the control circuit within the smart plug which will draw a very small amount.

The PSU example is different because it's taking a 240v AC supply and converting to 12v DC with the help of various components like capacitors etc. and that's why it isn't 100% efficient.
 
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Dirk Diggler said:
A smart plug is just a socket extension with a switch that you can control remotely. The load (item plugged in) will draw the exact same amount of watts and the only additional power will be the control circuit within the smart plug which will draw a very small amount.

The PSU example is different because it's taking a 240v AC supply and converting to 12v DC with the help of various components like capacitors etc. and that's why it isn't 100% efficient.
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Right ok, the article I read stated smart plugs have their own AC to DC convertor, lost the article now though.

Ordering some now thanks.
 
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chrcoluk said:
Has anyone tested power draw on devices with and without tapo smart plugs? I read an article claiming smart plus are only about 75% efficient so e.g. a 200w device would consume 250w using a smart plug.
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If that were true then plugging a 2kw heater into one would result in a draw of 2.5kw - 500w of which would need to be dissipated as heat by the smart plug. Not sure if you've ever touched a 100w light bulb after it's been on after a while, but imagine 5x that heat in a small plastic plug ;)
 
chrcoluk said:
Has anyone tested power draw on devices with and without tapo smart plugs? I read an article claiming smart plus are only about 75% efficient so e.g. a 200w device would consume 250w using a smart plug.
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Lol are you taking the ****.

Surely it's a simple pass through.
 
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