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Currently have 3080, buy 3090Ti or 12GB 4080?

JonRGV250

JonRGV250

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Apologies for another 40xx thread.

I had planned on buying the 4090 and have the money set aside to do so, but I'm thinking it's a little overkill for the use it'll get.
The only use my PC gets is to game and nothing else, and as many have said, theres hardly any current or in the pipeline games that need that much power.
I currently have a Zotac Amp Holo 3080 10GB which has served me very well, but is lacking at 4K in some games, so the other option is to buy a 3090Ti Amp Holo new for 1K (available) or the 4080 12GB, providing I'm even able to get one.
So I guess what I'm asking , would the 3090Ti be a better bet at that price point?
 
He has the same card as you already Bill! Personally I wouldn't waste the money. He has a point about the 4K but not saying anything. ;)
 
the 4070 (err 4080 12gb) is about the same rasterisation performance as the 3090ti from my guesstimations

the true 4080 (16gb) appears to be about 20% faster than the 3090ti, so i suspect would be about 1.4-1.5x the performance of the 3080
if you want to bendover without lube then the 4080 16gb would be the one to get

my guesstimation:
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gpuerrilla said:
He has the same card as you already Bill! Personally I wouldn't waste the money. He has a point about the 4K but not saying anything. ;)
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Yep, and I'm waiting, just like my own advice. Skipping this gen as was always the plan, majority of my gaming isn't quite at 4k, and for when it is? I don't care about it enough to spend well over a grand.
 
Thanks for the replies, they're very helpful.
As for wanting to scratch an itch, then yes, I am, I just wasn't expecting to quite as blindsided as I am by the BS that the leather jacket wearing snake has put out.
I'll hold out until next year and spend the cash on the house (the lounge could do with a new carpet) as I'm not exactly slumming it in the PC dept at the moment :)
 
JonRGV250 said:
Thanks for the replies, they're very helpful.
As for wanting to scratch an itch, then yes, I am, I just wasn't expecting to quite as blindsided as I am by the BS that the leather jacket wearing snake has put out.
I'll hold out until next year and spend the cash on the house (the lounge could do with a new carpet) as I'm not exactly slumming it in the PC dept at the moment :)
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Definitely the right answer I think
 
JonRGV250 said:
Thanks for the replies, they're very helpful.
As for wanting to scratch an itch, then yes, I am, I just wasn't expecting to quite as blindsided as I am by the BS that the leather jacket wearing snake has put out.
I'll hold out until next year and spend the cash on the house (the lounge could do with a new carpet) as I'm not exactly slumming it in the PC dept at the moment :)
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Couldn't have put it better myself
 
tamzzy said:
the 4070 (err 4080 12gb) is about the same rasterisation performance as the 3090ti from my guesstimations

the true 4080 (16gb) appears to be about 20% faster than the 3090ti, so i suspect would be about 1.4-1.5x the performance of the 3080
if you want to bendover without lube then the 4080 16gb would be the one to get

my guesstimation:
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AssCreed is probably the best raster vs. raster test we have at the moment - it doesn't run particularly well on nVidia (vs. AMD) and doesn't use RT or DLSS. In that test it looks to me that the 4090 is around 40% faster than the 3090Ti (graph scale says 1.5). 4080 16GB looks to be 10% faster and the 12 GB 5-8% slower.

MS Flight Sim was shown in their videos with DLSS 3.0 on and off at 4k. The 4090 with DLSS off was getting the same FPS I get on a 3090Ti ('cause it's CPU limited) - with DLSS frame interpolation it doubles the frame rate.

Portal, Racer RTX and Cyberpunk are all using DLSS 3.0 frame interpolation and the newer RT cores.
 
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Aegis said:
AssCreed is probably the best raster vs. raster test we have at the moment - it doesn't run particularly well on nVidia (vs. AMD) and doesn't use RT or DLSS. In that test it looks to me that the 4090 is around 40% faster than the 3090Ti (graph scale says 1.5). 4080 16GB looks to be 10% faster and the 12 GB 5-8% slower.
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Yeah, I will not be surprised if the performance ends up to be underwhelming for the price. Especially with just raw raster performance without dlss and/or frame insertion stuttery mess
 
Aegis said:
MS Flight Sim was shown in their videos with DLSS 3.0 on and off at 4k. The 4090 with DLSS off was getting the same FPS I get on a 3090Ti ('cause it's CPU limited) - with DLSS frame interpolation it doubles the frame rate.
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Also, all three of the 4xxx cards got to the same level as each other. Also shows CPU limitation, so that improvement must be solely down to frame insertion. Tech, not power. Could be good, but when ringfenced in such an expensive item? Not a chance for me, although it will sell, and sell well.
 
Bill Turnip said:
Also, all three of the 4xxx cards got to the same level as each other. Also shows CPU limitation, so that improvement must be solely down to frame insertion. Tech, not power. Could be good, but when ringfenced in such an expensive item? Not a chance for me, although it will sell, and sell well.
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I like the idea of frame insertion (even if it feels like it should be a 'value-add' rather than the reason to buy into 40xx) - it remains to be seen though a) what the quality is like (early indications are *bad* but it'll get better over time) and b) what it does to input latency - after all, one of the main reasons people like to play at high fps is the reduced latency - if you're just doubling the frame rate then the input latency will be the same as it was pre-doubling. Reflex may help with this but how much remains to be seen.
 
Very fair points - I think the "value-add, rather than reason to buy" point is exactly the point I was trying to make, put much more succinctly.

Quality will improve I think, but we'll never know the impact until benches come out, at which point plenty of fingers will have already been burned. It may improve with early driver releases, but I'm doubtful for now. It is a very high price for tech testing.
 
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