Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

I have a hot water tank, so temp for that is set separately from on the boiler itself (which just has a range of 10-30ºC for central heating).

Regardless though, I had the smart TRVs just accept everything, so the boiler was running at full pelt for an hour (and I don't have anything like OpenTherm or outside sensors for weather compensation.)

This was just to get an idea of what the maximum usage would be from my boiler for an hour, given none of the rads hit their limit and turned off.

Real world we would probably only be using maybe a third to 40% of total rads in the house, and with a much more conservative temp setting of 20ºC (wife is going to be so angry).
If your boiler is only offering 10-30ºC range on the system temp, then it must have weather compensation, otherwise you'd be setting a flow temperature in the 35-75ºC range.
 
Did my first bit of testing yesterday.

Turned all central heating on full whack, all radiators, for an hour.

Boiler set at the 'E' dial, which is apparently the economy baseline for 25ºC.

That hour used 12kWh worth of gas, roughly 80p.
I'd be more interested knowing what the hour's after consumption is, as I bet most of that 12kWh was spent getting the house and radiators to temperature. After that, all the boiler has to is maintain that temperature.
 
If your boiler is only offering 10-30ºC range on the system temp, then it must have weather compensation, otherwise you'd be setting a flow temperature in the 35-75ºC range.
Fair enough, nothing in the documents they gave me indicate that, but makes sense.

I'd be more interested knowing what the hour's after consumption is, as I bet most of that 12kWh was spent getting the house and radiators to temperature. After that, all the boiler has to is maintain that temperature.
I'm sure it would be lower, but I was trying to get a worst-case scenario to work backwards from. But weather compensation might be messing that up any way.
 
I wonder how the new cap will impact that don't pay movement. I figured their only chance was if millions did it, this may well reduce the willingness to try it.
 
Thanks, there is some huge regional variances.

Mine is one of the 33p one's but just did the maths and the 21p SC still makes me better of on Agile even if it doesnt get subsidised (I am on the 35p unit 21p SC version). Based on average 7 kWh day usage.

Typical, I'm on the highest N Wales and Mersey. Today is my last day on the cheap GO tariff 5/15p :(.

Start on the Go Faster at midnight tonight, 8.25/42p, 9.30PM to 2.30AM cheap rate, my use is 4-5kW daily summer months.
 
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I don't see any mention of it after my brief scan of the previous page or two.

When are people making their first increased, or revised, direct debit payments which were forecast to change from the 1st of October? I'm yet to receive anything official from EDF about my new prices. Although the prices appear to have been leaked, it would at least be considered good courtesy to formally let us know what our prices will be, so we can forecast our future payments.

So if the new prices start on 01/10/2022, are they also expecting us to immediately alter our direct debits accordingly, starting from the same date? If so, I don't think that's enough time to amend my direct debit amount. So surely they expect our new payments to start after 01/11/2022?
 
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I don't see any mention of it after my brief scan of the previous page or two.

When are people making their first increased, or revised, direct debit payments which were forecast to change from the 1st of October? I'm yet to receive anything official from EDF about my new prices. Although the prices appear to have been leaked, it would at least be considered good courtesy to formally let us know what our prices will be, so we can forecast our future payments.

So if the new prices start on 01/10/2022, are they also expecting us to immediately alter our direct debits accordingly, starting from the same date? If so, I don't think that's enough time to amend my direct debit amount. So surely they expect our new payments to start after 01/11/2022?

People have posted the rates from EDF in the last page or so, easy to work out your new amount from that. As for when they start. Let's say your bill is generated on the 20th of each month. Your next bill will be split into two parts, old rate 21st - 30th September and new rate 1st - 20th October.
 
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Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I don't see any mention of it after my brief scan of the previous page or two.

When are people making their first increased, or revised, direct debit payments which were forecast to change from the 1st of October? I'm yet to receive anything official from EDF about my new prices. Although the prices appear to have been leaked, it would at least be considered good courtesy to formally let us know what our prices will be, so we can forecast our future payments.

So if the new prices start on 01/10/2022, are they also expecting us to immediately alter our direct debits accordingly, starting from the same date? If so, I don't think that's enough time to amend my direct debit amount. So surely they expect our new payments to start after 01/11/2022?
The new rates have been showing in the app for a week or so & I think my girlfriend said that we got an email also. No news on our monthly D/D changing but they upped it to £141 a few months back from £80 anyway.
 
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I don't see any mention of it after my brief scan of the previous page or two.

When are people making their first increased, or revised, direct debit payments which were forecast to change from the 1st of October? I'm yet to receive anything official from EDF about my new prices. Although the prices appear to have been leaked, it would at least be considered good courtesy to formally let us know what our prices will be, so we can forecast our future payments.

So if the new prices start on 01/10/2022, are they also expecting us to immediately alter our direct debits accordingly, starting from the same date? If so, I don't think that's enough time to amend my direct debit amount. So surely they expect our new payments to start after 01/11/2022?

Im not lol

They (eon next) wanted to up my DD from 200 a month to 379

Told them where to go and that if they couldn't provide me a meter that worked (****** SMETS1) that any estimate they made was utter ***** and they could either keep my DD at 200 or I'd simply cancel the DD

DD is now set at 200 lol
 
Im not lol

They (eon next) wanted to up my DD from 200 a month to 379

Told them where to go and that if they couldn't provide me a meter that worked (****** SMETS1) that any estimate they made was utter ***** and they could either keep my DD at 200 or I'd simply cancel the DD

DD is now set at 200 lol
I like how imagining these conversations went in reality vs how they are reported.
 
Holy Jesus, 53kWh of gas per day?!? So you're expecting to burn through about 9500kWh of gas just for heating over those 6 months?
Yep, assuming the same usage and similar winter temperatures (it's not actually going to be the same, we are lowering the temp a bit). It's not that far off average though, it's a detached 4/5 bed so total gas use is 16,000kwh a year under that heating profile. Also given the age of the boiler I suspect upwards of 3000kwh of that is wasted. Trouble is that even under these 10p prices it's still a 7+ year pay back and I don't think we're staying here long enough to get that investment back
 
Well I still don't know the Sainsbury's energy Economy 7 prices but today they have updated my direct debit. I'm £132 in credit and they've reduced my DD from £75 to £7 per month. lol, I'll take that for now.
 
Eon still can’t tell me what will happen to my fix on 1st October. I asked that if they couldn’t tell me what the rates would be that they swap me onto the standard variable. They haven’t done that so now my fix has started. Looks like I’ll be arguing with them over a few pence that they’ll need to refund me…
 
Yep, assuming the same usage and similar winter temperatures (it's not actually going to be the same, we are lowering the temp a bit). It's not that far off average though, it's a detached 4/5 bed so total gas use is 16,000kwh a year under that heating profile. Also given the age of the boiler I suspect upwards of 3000kwh of that is wasted. Trouble is that even under these 10p prices it's still a 7+ year pay back and I don't think we're staying here long enough to get that investment back
In January and February alone this year, we got through almost 7000kwh gas, with annual usage close to 21k kwh so these amounts don't suprise me at all. Baseline usage is remarkably low at around 250 kWh per month but the house is a detached Victorian, solid walls, large single glazed bay windows with high ceilings, it simply takes a lot of energy to heat and we both work from home. This is with a new boiler and tado controlling the temperature in each room independently.

There is much to be said for older housing stock, but energy efficiency is not one of them!

On the flip side, we don't use a lot of electricity!
 
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People have posted the rates from EDF in the last page or so, easy to work out your new amount from that. As for when they start. Let's say your bill is generated on the 20th of each month. Your next bill will be split into two parts, old rate 21st - 30th September and new rate 1st - 20th October.
I don't understand why EDF haven't yet emailed me with the new prices. But, as you say, they have been leaked - but it would be nice EDF actually told me.
The new rates have been showing in the app for a week or so & I think my girlfriend said that we got an email also. No news on our monthly D/D changing but they upped it to £141 a few months back from £80 anyway.
I was expecting to be paying the increased direct debit from the 1st of October, which is when my direct debit is. But they haven't advised me on new prices or to revise my direct debit, so it feels more of a guessing game to me, until they tell me otherwise.
 
We upped our DD a few months back to below what was suggested at the time.

We're now a bit in credit and our DD isn't changing in October. Yet, anyway.

Not sure how the estimates are ever calculated, we're fully smart metered and yet our use never seems to get up to their estimates.
 
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