Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Looks to be South Korea? so probably not relevant to this thread, albeit not really a more appropriate existing thread currently.
Yeah at Gangneug Airbase which is the closest air force base to the DMZ. Timing eh with NK firing a ballistic missile earlier over Japan.

Sorry mods - couldn't find a thread to post in!
 
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Wow, that's some advance!

Maps posted four hours apart show scale and speed of Russian land losses​

Rybar, one of the relatively few Russian sources of military information, has posted maps which show in stark detail the scale of Russian difficulties in the southern Kherson region.
We have seen images of Ukrainian troops planting yellow and blue flags in various villages as they push through the Russian defences - or in lots of cases, occupy areas after Vladimir Putin's troops have withdrawn.
This map was posted by Rybar at 11am this morning.
The key is in Russian, so for the avoidance of doubt, the blue area is controlled by Ukraine, while the reddish-brown area is held by Russia and its proxies in Donetsk and Luhansk.
The striped area is the current warzone.
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You get an idea of how quickly the Ukrainians are regaining territory (and remember, this is land "annexed" by Russia last week) in the same, updated map posted just four hours later, with the striped warzone having expanded towards a clutch of settlements.
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Rybar's post, according to a translation, makes bleak reading for Russia: "In the northeast of the Kherson region, the RF Armed Forces regrouped... a decision was made to withdraw the contingent of the RF Armed Forces to a new line of defence.
"However, the absence of any retaliatory actions and counteroffensives in the near future will create a threat of a further offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Berislav and Novaya Kakhovka, as well as Kherson from the Posad-Pokrovsky and Snigirevsky sectors. In addition, the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine over the coast of the Dnieper River is an immediate danger to the Russian contingent on the left bank of the Dnieper.
"Ukrainian units, provided there is no opposition, will be able to carry out a landing operation using small boats, of which they have enough. And this is already a blow to the flank of the grouping of the RF Armed Forces in the Zaporozhye region and a direct exit to Melitopol."
 
I made a post precisely about this some 10 hours ago that it was looking like the occupied northern Kherson region was collapsing and look where we are now! :eek:
 
It's been collapsing for a bit longer than that now, some reports of 5k Russian casualties... something like 44 tanks lost... yikes.

In other news apparently, the surrender hotline is too busy and they're struggling to get through to it.
 
A strike is looking almost inevitable now. Not sure which city they would start with.
They won't hit a city. If they do use a small tactical nuclear weapon then they'll more than likely target it close to the front lines in one of the areas they've just recently stolen. Then they can claim they didn't attack Ukraine as, in their eyes, it's now Russian soil.
 
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They won't hit a city. If they do use a small tactical nuclear weapon then they'll more than likely target it close to the front lines in one of the areas they've just recently stolen. Then they can claim they didn't attack Ukraine as, in their eyes, it's now Russian soil.
Yes I can see them doing that, and I would also hope that they pay a heavy price for doing so.
 
They won't hit a city. If they do use a small tactical nuclear weapon then they'll more than likely target it close to the front lines in one of the areas they've just recently stolen. Then they can claim they didn't attack Ukraine as, in their eyes, it's now Russian soil.
That’s certainly an option. Putin has been referring to how the US set a precedent when it defeated Japan using nukes and that was to drop 1 on a small city and ask if they wanted to surrender. Then drop 1 on another small city and ask again. They could try this as well.
 
I think that's perhaps a bit far, the risk of it has perhaps increased but there is nothing to suggest it's inevitable.
Putin would have to be removed before it could happen. Until then I think we are well on that path and it will happen eventually.
 
That’s certainly an option. Putin has been referring to how the US set a precedent when it defeated Japan using nukes and that was to drop 1 on a small city and ask if they wanted to surrender. Then drop 1 on another small city and ask again. They could try this as well.

They could but they'd likely be met with a big NATO response after the first one ergo it could be rather futile... Japan didn't have anyone waiting in the wings reading to go and stomp all over the US in response, that's a big difference here.

Putin would have to be removed before it could happen. Until then I think we are well on that path and it will happen eventually.

Eh? That's not making any sense? Putin could literally order a tactical nuclear strike.
 
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They could but they'd likely be met with a big NATO response after the first one ergo it could be rather futile... Japan didn't have anyone waiting in the wings reading to go and stomp all over the US in response, that's a big difference here.
It is but I don’t see NATO striking Russian territory. That would then escalate this beyond Ukraine and nukes will then fly everywhere. I don’t think Ukraine will back down even if nuked which is what will ultimately result in this being losing situation for Putin.

Eh? That's not making any sense? Putin could literally order a tactical nuclear strike.
No I meant Putin being removed is the only way it being stopped could happen. Otherwise we are on that path to it happening.
 
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It is but I don’t see NATO striking Russian territory. That would then escalate this beyond Ukraine and nukes will then fly everywhere.

They don't need to strike Russian territory, they could enforce a no-fly, zone, remove Russian air defences, attack Russian forces in Ukraine... it could be game over for Russia in Ukraine ergo if that happened the nuke would be, ostensibly self-defeating, unless he fancies sacrificing a bunch of lives to give him a "NATO beat us not Ukraine" excuse and save face.
 
They don't need to strike Russian territory, they could enforce a no-fly, zone, remove Russian air defences, attack Russian forces in Ukraine... it could be game over for Russia in Ukraine ergo if that happened the nuke would be, ostensibly self-defeating, unless he fancies sacrificing a bunch of lives to give him a "NATO beat us not Ukraine" excuse and save face.
Exactly. Russia’s next step would be just to nuke the hell out Ukraine kill lots of NATO forces and declare if we can’t have it no one can.
 
I can’t see Putin ordering a strike - perhaps detonate a device on a test range.

It would be extremely counterproductive to use one against Ukraine.
 
Exactly. Russia’s next step would be just to nuke the hell out Ukraine kill lots of NATO forces and declare if we can’t have it no one can.

If he launches ICBMs then he risks getting Moscow, St Petersberg etc.. flattened by NATO nukes.

The use of a tactical nuke certainly isn't inevitable and the next step after a conventional NATO response isn't known either, that could quite easily be Russia losing/going home.
 
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