There were better ways to have tackled covid. We should never have got to a position where we needed to shut down large parts of the economy and even remotely need to do furlough. It was a waste of taxpayer money but it was the only way as we were unprepared. I speak from my experience in South Korea where we had no lockdown or furlough. Things carried on almost like normal.
Kwasi Kwarteng has been sacked..
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Up until it happened there was no political pressure or people like yourself asking for this level of preparedness.
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The Tories purposefully went against the pandemic plans that were already in place. They even ignored PPE requirement stocks levels infact going against the requirements.
Aww, look at their little faces. Doomed and they know it...
It was the first meeting of the group since Kwasi Kwarteng was sacked as chancellor and his replacement, Jeremy Hunt, tore the mini-budget to shreds.
Mr Hunt was expected to tell his colleagues that they had to make savings in their budgets due to the state of the economy after he was drafted in to reassure markets following the turbulent start to Ms Truss's time in Downing Street.
Insight from deputy political editor Sam Coates in Downing Street:
Cabinet ministers leave Downing Street
Secretaries of state and other senior government ministers have left Downing Street following a meeting of the cabinet.It was the first meeting of the group since Kwasi Kwarteng was sacked as chancellor and his replacement, Jeremy Hunt, tore the mini-budget to shreds.
Mr Hunt was expected to tell his colleagues that they had to make savings in their budgets due to the state of the economy after he was drafted in to reassure markets following the turbulent start to Ms Truss's time in Downing Street.
Insight from deputy political editor Sam Coates in Downing Street:
Because most people assume a government does what it's mean to do, you know stuff like protecting the country and its population.
What you're essentially suggesting is that we should be applying political pressure asking if our nuclear deterrent is prepared, if our navy is prepared, if basically every part of government is prepared for everything...Who exactly is running the country us or them? Should i be giving Virgin Media a call to make sure they're prepared for the failure of some unknown piece of equipment that's vital for my internet or should i perhaps trust that they know what they're doing.
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You're living in mythical dream world pal. Government execute the will of the people. Pandemic planning was probably about priority 20, list 1000. You can't possibly expect all things to be done well, unless of course you are not in touch with the real world. Some times things need to happen before resources are properly deployed.
The govt had a pandemic plan actually and proceeded to totally ignore it. IIRC pre pandemic UK was rated 1 or 2 in the world for its pandemic planning. The issue with populist morons in charge, they do populist things.
The govt had a pandemic plan actually and proceeded to totally ignore it. IIRC pre pandemic UK was rated 1 or 2 in the world for its pandemic planning. The issue with populist morons in charge, they do populist things.
they had the findings of operation cygnus (october 2016), which basically said that the UK was completely unprepared for a flu / respiratory pandemic. No additional measures were taken to increase the UK's preparedness off the back of that in October 2016 or even at any other time leading up to March 2020 when it all kicked off, and guess who was the health secretary back then.......... it's the very same geeser who is now in charge of this countries finances.............. we are properly boned.
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Where do these unions think the money they are demanding is going to come from now?
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Unions threaten biggest strikes in 50 YEARS as nearly 2 million teachers and doctors warn of massive walkouts
UNIONS have threatened the biggest strikes in 50 years with nearly two million teachers and doctors warning of massive walkouts. It is feared the nation could be brought to its knees in a new ̶…
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If expecting that in the space of 200 years that someone should've maybe made a folder with pandemic plan written on it then sure, i live in a mythical dream world, pal.
It's not even like that should've been done at some point in the entire history of the UK parliament, just doing it when you knew the potential for a global pandemic looked increasing likely would've maybe been a good idea, pal. I get it, pal, you're batting for your 'team' so you'll excuse anything and everything, but to have so much hate for your country that you don't expect better from the people who govern you is dangerous sycophancy, pal.
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Sols already put that to bed. We were number 2 for preparedness apparently. So the plan was class leading. It's almost like plans go to pot when the world is collapsing around it.If expecting that in the space of 200 years that someone should've maybe made a folder with pandemic plan written on it then sure, i live in a mythical dream world, pal.
It's not even like that should've been done at some point in the entire history of the UK parliament, just doing it when you knew the potential for a global pandemic looked increasing likely would've maybe been a good idea, pal. I get it, pal, you're batting for your 'team' so you'll excuse anything and everything, but to have so much hate for your country that you don't expect better from the people who govern you is dangerous sycophancy, pal.
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Where do these unions think the money they are demanding is going to come from now?
Unions threaten biggest strikes in 50 YEARS as nearly 2 million teachers and doctors warn of massive walkouts
UNIONS have threatened the biggest strikes in 50 years with nearly two million teachers and doctors warning of massive walkouts. It is feared the nation could be brought to its knees in a new ̶…
Increasing your taxes.
Where do these unions think the money they are demanding is going to come from now?
Unions threaten biggest strikes in 50 YEARS as nearly 2 million teachers and doctors warn of massive walkouts
UNIONS have threatened the biggest strikes in 50 years with nearly two million teachers and doctors warning of massive walkouts. It is feared the nation could be brought to its knees in a new ̶…
Well, according to @Trusty, we've got a very strong Debt:GDP Ratio, so now would be the time to take advantage of that by borrowing more to increase public-sector pay.
No way am i giving The Sun a click but i would imagine they think the money is going to come from the same place as the £895bn of QE, or the £13.5bn for the failed track&trace.Where do these unions think the money they are demanding is going to come from now?
Unions threaten biggest strikes in 50 YEARS as nearly 2 million teachers and doctors warn of massive walkouts
UNIONS have threatened the biggest strikes in 50 years with nearly two million teachers and doctors warning of massive walkouts. It is feared the nation could be brought to its knees in a new ̶…
Yea, because we all know just because you're second most prepared that it means you're prepared, pal.
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Good cope. You whinge we didn't have a plan - turned out we had the second best plan globally. You are now saying second best isn't good enough - lol. Keep going pal, I will start knitting your cape.Yea, because we all know just because you're second most prepared that it means you're prepared, pal.
Where do these unions think the money they are demanding is going to come from now?
Unions threaten biggest strikes in 50 YEARS as nearly 2 million teachers and doctors warn of massive walkouts
UNIONS have threatened the biggest strikes in 50 years with nearly two million teachers and doctors warning of massive walkouts. It is feared the nation could be brought to its knees in a new ̶…
What's the end game with public sector pay? Stop it from increasing with inflation indefinitely? What message does that send to those considering monopoly employer professions such as teachers and nurses? What's the likelihood they would attract anyone from the private sector with transferable skills if wages are significantly below the competition?
Clearly reading isn't your bag, pal. I didn't say we didn't have a plan, i said "plans in place for such eventualities" the eventuality of "what to do if a government mandated lockdown prevented people from working".
And like i said being second best prepared means diddly squat, just because you're second best prepared it doesn't mean you're prepared, pal.
e: If i said your reading skills are second best does that mean your reading skills are good enough?
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OK but by globally recognised objective measures we were the second best planned globally.
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