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no ones disagreeing about controlling unvetted immigration, but we probably had more co-operation from France controlling boats PB

Fear of what? Their incompetence is a matter of record
well Keir with his clown type performance/rhetoric in parliament yesterday at PQT it's not a good advertisement of competence ... are there other worldwide parliaments that behave like this
 
Most people edit their posts to tidy them up, however like i said Mrwong edited his post to remove some rather odious (IMO) suggestions, like i said we can always ask a mod to revert the edit, if Mrwong has nothing to hide, has the courage, and agrees to it that is.

What are you talking about, dispersion measures and from what i can make out 18 lines of gish gallop that as I've already said should be take to the illegal immigration thread in SC.

So what do you say Mrwong, do you agree that a mod should undo your edits to that post?

I never took anything out of my edit, I just tidying up a bit. Please provide evidence, you cannot because it does no exist.

This is about financing and policies to get this country back on track, reducing costs to service our ever increasing debt,

You refused to answer some simple questions, provides me with information as well,
 
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I never took anything out of my edit, I just tidying up a bit. Please provide evidence, you cannot because it does no exist.

This is about financing and policies to get this country back on track, reducing costs to service out ever increasing debt,
So you have no problem with a mod undoing that tidying up then, just say the word and I'll message a mod and we can resolve this.

Yes this thread is about financing and policies, in a roundabout way, it's not however a platform for you to spout your uninformed beliefs about immigration especially after you've been given evidence that show immigrants typically contribute more to the public purse than people born here.
 
Most people edit their posts to tidy them up, however like i said Mrwong edited his post to remove some rather odious (IMO) suggestions, like i said we can always ask a mod to revert the edit, if Mrwong has nothing to hide, has the courage, and agrees to it that is.

What are you talking about, dispersion measures and from what i can make out 18 lines of gish gallop that as I've already said should be take to the illegal immigration thread in SC.

So what do you say Mrwong, do you agree that a mod should undo your edits to that post?

I never took anything out of my edit, I just tidying up a bit. Please provide evidence, you cannot because it does not exist.
Is anyone here saying the current trend of well over 1000 unvetted migrants a day, known to be being assisted ashore in Dover is sustainable and good for the UK? God knows how many more are landing without being counted.

How long can such arrivals be assimilated for? At what cost?

This truth is it can’t, we do not have the resources. We can clearly witness this by the decline of our own National state of affairs.
It is unfolding as we speak.
 
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no ones disagreeing about controlling unvetted immigration, but we probably had more co-operation from France controlling boats PB


well Keir with his clown type performance/rhetoric in parliament yesterday at PQT it's not a good advertisement of competence ... are there other worldwide parliaments that behave like this
It’s always been like this though. They behave like children with their booing and jeering. Problem is they invest more energy in defeating the opposition than doing what’s best for the country.
 
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So you have no problem with a mod undoing that tidying up then, just say the word and I'll message a mod and we can resolve this.

Yes this thread is about financing and policies, in a roundabout way, it's not however a platform for you to spout your uninformed beliefs about immigration especially after you've been given evidence that show immigrants typically contribute more to the public purse than people born here.
I am happy for that to happen, I have not deleted what you propose I did.

I am not the one that introduced personal attacks.
 
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I never took anything out of my edit, I just tidying up a bit. Please provide evidence, you cannot because it does no exist.
What are you doing? All that adrenaline is muddling your thought process, you're starting to repeat yourself.

Like i said so you have no problem with a mod undoing that tidying up then, just say the word and I'll message a mod and we can resolve this.

Dang it, lets face it you're never going to agree because you know full well what you posted, i just asked if you were OK with it to see how you'd react and because i was trying to be polite but seeing as we both know you're not going to agree I'll just ask a mod anyway, maybe they will undo you edit maybe they won't but there's no harm in asking. :)

e: Well blow me, you did agree, i take back what i said about you never agreeing to it.
 
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What are you doing? All that adrenaline is muddling your thought process, you're starting to repeat yourself.

Like i said so you have no problem with a mod undoing that tidying up then, just say the word and I'll message a mod and we can resolve this.

Dang it, lets face it you're never going to agree because you know full well what you posted, i just asked if you were OK with it to see how you'd react and because i was trying to be polite but seeing as we both know you're not going to agree I'll just ask a mod anyway, maybe they will undo you edit maybe they won't but there's no harm in asking. :)

e: Well blow me, you did agree, i take back what i said about you never agreeing to it.
What you talking about, go read my post 30 mins ago.

Another personal attack, with out any merit.
 
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You mean the one you repeated 5min later?

e: Oh and even if you didn't say it in that exact post you did in your post just before that...
boat race ?

As long as she comes down hard on the boat people, send them back the same day even push those boats back to sea), start giving out proper jail sentences.
I am totally for no money to asylums seekers that arrive crossing the channel.
 
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You mean the one you repeated 5min later?

e: Oh and even if you didn't say it in that exact post you did in your post just before that...
I see you deleted your last post and then reposted it using my post which had your quote.
 
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I see you deleted your last post and then reposted it using my post which had your quote.
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The politics of hate, fear and lies is on its arse, an abject failure in all respects. Rip Tories.
Politics is a failure. This is the best it can produce folks. It’s been a slow decline and here we are, expectations have been sufficiently reduced to this pile of crap.
 
Politics is a failure. This is the best it can produce folks. It’s been a slow decline and here we are, expectations have been sufficiently reduced to this pile of crap.
Problem is everyone wants their own way, every group feels they are more important that another group, governments are appease all but reality screwing it up.
 
Politics is a failure. This is the best it can produce folks. It’s been a slow decline and here we are, expectations have been sufficiently reduced to this pile of crap.

no, Johnson and his acolytes and sycophants have been gaslighting you to beleive this is the best you can get, as that works in their favour when it comes to holding on to power for grim death. The fact that so many people have been willing participants in this gaslighting en masse is the sad thing, depsite there being multiple sources of fact out there to show you its happening, people still chose to beleive their gaslighting masters.
 
Politics is a failure. This is the best it can produce folks. It’s been a slow decline and here we are, expectations have been sufficiently reduced to this pile of crap.

Well no, this is just one "side". There are quite clearly better alternatives.

One day we can hope for a better election process. Bring on PR and a more balanced representative.
 
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