Been thinking of upgrading my current setup of AMD 5600X to Intel 13600K as im impressed with the Raptor lake cpu. Was just going to drop in a 5800X3D but they are pricey and also AM4 a dying platform. Am5 prices not very appealing and as I use my pc mainly for gaming the Intel part is winning me over again as ive had a i54670 in the past and an Asus motherboard and i liked it a lot. So im after a decent motherboard to go with the 13600K, I need onboard WIFI and it to be DDR5. As eventually i'll be bunging in a 4090 when things calm down. I game mostly at 2160p @120hz using a 6800XT at present.
leaning towards 13600K what sub Z690 DDR5 motherboard £300 or less.
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Tough call at that res as a cheaper Ryzen 5 7600X will likely get you same fps and years of AM5 upgrade possibilities? Don't get me wrong a 13600K is better, but another Intel socket change due in 12 months time?
I'm wondering if pumping £680 + RAM into a new cpu/mobo makes sense at 4K, whereas nabbing a 4090 asap more than doubles fps over your 6800xt. The 5600x is still a great gaming cpu.
I sort of agree with this because you cannot say you don't want to change to the 3D chip because it's a dying platform but then want to change everything to a dying platform.
I never thought about the intel platform having not much life in it as opposed to Am4. Its really hard because whilst I'm very impressed with the performance of the 5800x3d and I'm very tempted and I'd be able to hold on to my ddr4 3600mhz. But my head was turned by the recent reviews of the new intel cpus gaming wise I know you can use ddr4 but I thought if I'm upgrading I mays well go ddr5. And now I'm seeing z790 boards maybes a better option as in what I'm looking for and not much more expense over z690 at least in my budget. Am5 I just don't know. Maybes I could wait to see AMDs X3d version cpus. I bet they will be real intel killers. Yep it's tough.
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Yeah great at 1080p as a headline grabbing % gain with cpu limited games ... different story at 4K.
Your 5600X has better single thread performance than my 2 year old i9 ... no way would i swap out for a 13xxx as i also game at 4K. I might go 4080 16GB at some point though.
Why not just go for a cheaper Z690 DDR4 board and reuse your ram since it's good quality Bdie and can run 1-1 at 4000+ MHz with a bit of manual tuning on RPL with the improved memory controller?.
Cheapest upgrade option would be to pick up a used 5800X3D and use that for a while till meteor lake / zen 5.
Cheapest upgrade option would be to pick up a used 5800X3D and use that for a while till meteor lake / zen 5.
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I've made up my mind. I'm going easiest cheapest option. 5800X3D it's a great cpu and a straight drop in. Plus a bonus extra 2 cores. It'll ride me over until I see some decent price drops or as Joxeon says meteor or Zen 5. Thanks.
cheapest?? how so? 5800X3D is the most over priced CPU right now.
the 13600K is faster in most games and in a complete different league in productivity benchmarks yet at least £50 cheaper.($100 cheaper MSRP)
unless you already have a AMD motherboard of course.
it's actually the exact opposit the overpriced 5800X3D is only fast at 1080P games even AMD's own 5800X destroys it at productivity benchmarks .
the 13600K is faster in games and much faster in productivity making it a completely superior CPU at a cheaper price.
AMD said they will support AM5 un til 2025.that's just another 3 years.
so let's see..option 1: you pay for the overpriced,underperforming 7600X,pay double for the DDR5 ram,pay premium for a compatible motherboard that will be obsolete in 3 years anyway
OR
option 2 : you can pay nearly half that price for a 13600K+B660+DDR 4 that will outperform the AMD system and will stay so for (at least) same duration.
it's obvious which one is better.
It's cheaper as in I don't have to buy a new motherboard plus DDR5 and the cpu.
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Look at this Intel fan boy. Guessing you have shares in the company.
my plan is to wait for zen4 3d and hopefully b650e price has lowered as well as RAM
Right now waiting is a good game I think especially as there is more new tech in both CPUs and GPUs coming from AMD. Once everything is out then you can make an informed decision. It maybe that AMD GPUs are more appealing than the 4090 (who knows) and with tech like SAM maybe the AMD platform makes more sense. Also, prices for everything seem massively inflated right now and I can't see the current pricing holding for too long, tech companies had it too good over the pandemic and are trying to alter mindset by keeping prices high. Ultimately the drop in demand they are already seeing through cost of living etc will force pricing down, the pound rebounding (slowly) from historic lows will help too.
The 5800x3d does look like an appealing drop in mind you (I have considered exactly that) its especially impressive with the 0.1 and 1% lows, a max of 200 or 300fps you won't notice but a drop to only 70 instead of 30fps you do. That all said, the 13600+B660+ddr4 is almost definitely the sweet spot for gaming right now.
The 5800x3d does look like an appealing drop in mind you (I have considered exactly that) its especially impressive with the 0.1 and 1% lows, a max of 200 or 300fps you won't notice but a drop to only 70 instead of 30fps you do. That all said, the 13600+B660+ddr4 is almost definitely the sweet spot for gaming right now.
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fair enough,.if you already have the MB 5800X3D makes sense.
silly boy,my last system was AMD..5600X pre-ordered got it on launch..
things have changed now.Intel is simply better now.
I'm fanboy of whichever delivers the best for my money.
Now thats just crazy talk!!!
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Best for money? You're buying into a deadend platform. If you care about value, Intel isn't it this time around.
Actually the platform is competitive and strong enough for at least 3 years (using 13600K).
+ there is option to upgrade to 13700K,13900K down the line if needed.
the Zen 4 route will cost MUCH more.AMD said they'll support it until 2025.that's around same time I expect the Intel option to stay relevant and competitive.
so no real advantage for AMD only much more expensive.
this has been discussed in latest Hardware Unboxed video too.
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So you're saying that a 3600k will stay competitive with a (future) 9600X?