GPU to go well with a Ryzen 3600?

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Time for my yearly thread on what to buy because I don't keep up with the times!

My partners PC had a GTX970 which she ran since the day it got released, it recently died a painful death and I couldn't revive it. She is currently using my busted Vega 64, which has some issue with thermals and simply can't be cooled. I need a replacement GPU for her.

Her specs:

B450 mobo of some kind, can't recall
Ryzen 5 3600
16GB DDR4 3200mhz Corsair LPX
Seasonic 650w PSU

She games at 1440p with a 144hz monitor.

Looking to spend 500-800. I am probably in the 3080 price tier but not sure if it's worth just holding off for more 4000 series cards and seeing what happens. I don't want to wait too long as she literally can't play games besides old stuff that don't stress the GPU. I don't want to buy another AMD card.

What would be best suited for the spec and budget? Is the CPU going to be a bottleneck?
 
I ran a 3080 with a 3600 for a few months and it did the job fine, if you wait for the 4000 series then it may be a while before something comes along at a reasonable price and even then it may not be much faster than a 3080 at a similar cost.
 
Joxeon said:
I ran a 3080 with a 3600 for a few months and it did the job fine, if you wait for the 4000 series then it may be a while before something comes along at a reasonable price and even then it may not be much faster than a 3080 at a similar cost.
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Yeah I really don't want to wait for the 4000 series dropping something if it's going to be ages, it's not fair for her because I bought myself a new GPU soon as my Vega went poop.

Did you upgrade from the 3600? I don't want to get something that will need replacing in <2 years, I am thinking even if the CPU does bottleneck with a something like a 3080 I can at least fix that with a new CPU, but I can't fix an underperforming low end GPU down the line except replacing it.
 
I'd get a FE 3060 Ti as value wise it's probably the best buy, but it is borderline for 1440 in newer games (especially at that refresh). That said, it's massively faster than the GTX970 so if that was enough, the 3060 Ti would be easily.

The AIB RX 6800 seems to have gone up to £600+ and the 3080 up to £800 odd, I don't think that is worth it.
 
Gibbo3771 said:
Yeah I really don't want to wait for the 4000 series dropping something if it's going to be ages, it's not fair for her because I bought myself a new GPU soon as my Vega went poop.

Did you upgrade from the 3600? I don't want to get something that will need replacing in <2 years, I am thinking even if the CPU does bottleneck with a something like a 3080 I can at least fix that with a new CPU, but I can't fix an underperforming low end GPU down the line except replacing it.
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I found very little difference between a 3600 and 5800X @1440p so assuming your not running 1080p where the difference will be greater then the 3600 should be fine for a couple of years.
 
Tetras said:
I'd get a FE 3060 Ti as value wise it's probably the best buy, but it is borderline for 1440 in newer games (especially at that refresh). That said, it's massively faster than the GTX970 so if that was enough, the 3060 Ti would be easily.

The AIB RX 6800 seems to have gone up to £600+ and the 3080 up to £800 odd, I don't think that is worth it.
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The 970 wasn't enough, she would have gotten a new card years ago if it wasn't for the shortage/scalpage. It would be nice to push 1440p at 144hz. The 3060ti was what I was going to buy earlier in the year (before her card died) but I had already gotten a 3080 FE and it was 1 per household.

I also don't think the cards are worth the money but there are no other options, I'll pay what it is. Right now she has basically nothing :(.

tamzzy said:
correct. if it was a 5600 on the other hand...
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It could be a 5600, not like I can't fire a 5600 into this mobo down the line. I don't want to aim to low for that reason, was looking at 3070 and over kinda specs/price.

I'm happy to spend the whole budget, I don't care really. What I do care about is say, 3070ti vs 3080, is it worth the extra cash or do you take the performance loss and save on wattage/easier time cooling. And what one of these cards do I get, what has the best cooling etc etc. Not really sure what to buy.
 
Gibbo3771 said:
I also don't think the cards are worth the money but there are no other options, I'll pay what it is. Right now she has basically nothing :(.
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I might be talking looney logic here, but my thinking is:

The FE 3060 Ti is £369, which is better than anything else at this price point (and even if it isn't, the 6650 XT, or a 6700 XT is still in a similar class of performance)
The FE 3070 Ti is £549 (+25% faster, +50% cost)

The cheapest RX 6800 is about £600 (+29% faster, +60% cost)
The cheapest AIB 3080 I saw is about £700 (+50% faster, +90% cost)

The 6900 XT has had some big price cuts and you can pick one up for £730 (+61% faster, +100% cost).

The 6900 XT is the best "I have to buy and it isn't a 3060 Ti" option? :eek: :confused:

(% from TPU's 3060 Ti page)
 
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tamzzy said:
5600/x +/- cooler and a used 3080 off the MM
makes it £650-700
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That is a good shout, was not aware the market was still here. I don't see it on the main forum?

Tetras said:
I might be talking looney logic here, but my thinking is:

The FE 3060 Ti is £369, which is better than anything else at this price point (and even if it isn't, the 6650 XT, or a 6700 XT is still in a similar class of performance)
The FE 3070 Ti is £549 (+25% faster, +50% cost)

The cheapest RX 6800 is about £600 (+29% faster, +60% cost)
The cheapest AIB 3080 I saw is about £700 (+50% faster, +90% cost)

The 6900 XT has had some big price cuts and you can pick one up for £730 (+61% faster, +100% cost).

The 6900 XT is the best "I have to buy and it isn't a 3060 Ti" option? :eek: :confused:

(% from TPU's 3060 Ti page)
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By not worth the money, I mean literally any card. They are all 30-40% higher priced than they should be imo.
 
freddie64 said:
Don't think this would be enough for a 3080.
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It won't be enough. I did run a 3080 FE on a TX650 watt PSU but it was sketchy and Linus from LTT.com stated that quite a few employees of his who tried to run the 3080 on a 650 watt PSU ended up having to upgrade.

He also pointed out that if the PSU doesn't trip OCP, that's not a good thing. That's a very bad thing. I upgraded to a Titanium 750 PSU that can do 850 watts under spike loads and it's far safer.

I see you're running the same PSU and GPU.
 
JollyJamma said:
It won't be enough. I did run a 3080 FE on a TX650 watt PSU but it was sketchy and Linus from LTT.com stated that quite a few employees of his who tried to run the 3080 on a 650 watt PSU ended up having to upgrade.

He also pointed out that if the PSU doesn't trip OCP, that's not a good thing. That's a very bad thing. I upgraded to a Titanium 750 PSU that can do 850 watts under spike loads and it's far safer.

I see you're running the same PSU and GPU.
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I seem to remember reading some people using 650w psu's with success but decided not to risk it and upgraded mine.

Was a good investment at just shy of £100, although moving to a ITX SFF is looking doubtful now.
 
Its going to depend on what CPU you have as to whether 650W would be fine. Or if you always intend to run undervolted/lower power limit than the stock 320W.

Op's 3600 isn't particularly power hungry.
 
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