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To many belts not enough fights.
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This quest for undisputed has held up the division for far too long now. We should’ve had it years ago with AJ/Wilder and they messed around, we should have had it with AJ/Fury and they messed around again and we are still waiting for it with Fury/Usyk. Meanwhile all the other fighters could’ve been fighting each other but all they want is a guaranteed payday against AJ.
Yes I was saying clash of stayles wilder Ruiz sorry
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OMG AJ again and payday he dont care about money and looks like now AJ wants to have easy life and not taking big names now. Real champion should try to go back on top instead of taking easy road.
If AJ doesn't want to retire then he needs to build confidence back up by fighting at a lower level. He's not been the same since the Ruiz loss, not only that but the reaction after the Usyk fight shows that he's declining mentally.
Needs to rebuild and try to get back to the top.
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Look it’s quite simple AJ is/was the biggest draw in hw boxing that is a fact, so naturally everyone knew fighting AJ would be the biggest payday they could get. That’s a fact.
Did Fury take the easy road? Did Wilder take the easy road? It’s quite simple really he’s come off back to back defeats taking on the p4p no1 in the World, he’s entitled to a soft touch if that’s how he feels. He’s fought back to back World title fights since 2016. Has Fury done that? No he took a “2 year layoff” because he was caught taking steroids. Usyk has because he’s also a true champion.
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So what’s your problem then?
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What I saying is AJ its no longer the biggest draw in hw boxing thats all.
And if that was actually true then what about it? Why would everyone want to fight Aj if it wasn’t for all the money they’d earn.
You don’t even make sense talking g about AJ’s over rated because he lost to Ruiz then immediately corrected it in the rematch, you haven’t got a clue what your talking about.
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Oleksandr Usyk vs Tyson Fury: Filip Hrgovic mandatory 'will not influence' the undisputed heavyweight title fight, says Usyk promoter
The need to fight mandatory challengers wont obstruct Oleksandr Usyks plans to box Tyson Fury for the undisputed heavyweight championship next, his team tells Sky Sports; Usyk has also been encouraged to box once again in the UK; his message has been inspirational
Not quite but saying he’s over rated because he lost Ruiz is just dumb. Lennox Lewis lost he’s not overrated, your favourite fighter Pac-Man lost numerous times yet you still think he’s better than Mayweather.
Making the correct observation about AJ being the biggest draw in HW boxing is not thinking he’s a God it’s just common sense. Giving Fury and Wilder numerous passes for fighting weak opposition, yet AJ none for fighting potentially Whyte after a 6 year solid back to back World title fights, is either just dumb or agenda driven.
Not even Fury agrees with you
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Tyson Fury says he 'needs' Anthony Joshua fight and it would be 'a travesty' if it did not happen
Tyson Fury: I think it would be an absolute dying travesty if me and Joshua didnt fight in this era; the British star is currently preparing for a WBC heavyweight title defence against Derek Chisora on December 3 at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium
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First of all Lenox lost 2 times but made a clear 2 statments (ko) after all loses true champion.What did AJ did after 2 losses nothing is the answer from me. Pac-man was my favourite fighter for hes style and achievements in boxing (only him was 8th division world champion) and if you look at achivments its better them Money Man. And AJ if he wants to be in HW on top he needs to show this to us and you stop telling everyone wants AJ money for me is legasy not money. End of the day we want to see good fights and less promoters like you to AJ
So was Wilder a true champion? Did Pac-Man avenge he loss to Marquez after got spark clean out? Do you know how many legendary fighters got beat and never avenged their loses? Talking about Pac-Man. Does no one find it weird how a guy can come up 8 weight classes and carry power all the way up to sww? I mean he fought a lot of fighters at catchweights like a weight drained de la Hoya but it was kind of weird how he did it. Especially when you take his excuse for the fight with Mayweather not happening originally, because he didn’t want blood taken for anti-doping purposes. Not only that didn’t he have a guy in his team, a doctor that well known for doping? It was a while ago but I remember the story.
Why do you think Fury ‘needs’ to fight Joshua? Why do think he ‘offered’ the fight to him recently? It’s not for his titles. It’s because it’s a whole load of money he doesn’t earn anywhere else.l not because he’s throwing him a bone lol. Why does Dubois want to fight him when Dubois is WBA regular aka mandatory? Why does Joyce, Whyte, Ruiz, and every other HW fighter? AJ doesn’t have any belts so according to your logic nobody needs him anymore. Hate to break it to you but it’s all about money. Always has been, always will be. It’s called prize fighting for a reason.
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Its like your Mayweather never took anything ha ha ha.
He’s not my Mayweather he was just the best of his generation. Undefeated, never lost.
So anyway back to AJ he lost then avenged against Ruiz which you say exposes him, makes him overrated. Well Ruiz beat Wilders best win in Ortiz. Wilder lost 3 times against Fury (twice by Ko) yet still gets more of a pass than AJ. AJ lost twice back to back by decision to the P4P best fighter in the World yet he’s finished. AJ supposedly has a weak chin, yet both Wilder and Fury has been down multiple times, so has Whyte, so has Parker, Ruiz has been put down. Just admit it quite a few of you have a fetish for putting AJ down and giving others a pass. As we know Pac-Man got sparked clean out. AJ hasn’t. Pac-Man lost 8 times, AJ hasn’t. Double standards is what it is.
Anyone saying AJ is just a hype job isn't being objective. Neither are they being objective if they try and suggest he isn't the money man in the division. He may not be as big of a draw as he was prior to the Ruiz defeat but he is consistently raking in the numbers when it comes to PPV.
Notice how the Fury vs Whyte numbers were never revealed? If Fury was the draw he and Frank want you to believe then they'd be screaming those numbers from the rooftops
Notice how the Fury vs Whyte numbers were never revealed? If Fury was the draw he and Frank want you to believe then they'd be screaming those numbers from the rooftops
Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia apparently signed, sealed and delivered. Should be a good fight looking forward to it.
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Ryan Garcia vs Gervonta Davis bout announced by both fighters as 'done deal' for 2023
Im so pumped this fight is finally in place - I want it more than anything. Ive put in the work, Im at the prime of my career, and I know Im going to be the biggest in the world. That legacy starts today - Garcia; Its me and Ryan signed sealed delivered…done deal! - Davis