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Nvidia plans to launch a $400 4060 that's as fast as the 3070

Basically nvidia wants to give you the same performance as last gen at the same price points and if they give you more performance then they expect you to pay more.

I can't see AMD being much better now that the 7800XT has been renamed as the 7900XT as it'll mean the 7700XT becomes the 7800XT and that trend will continue down the stack so lower performance at a higher price point.
 
Basically nvidia wants to give you the same performance as last gen at the same price points and if they give you more performance then they expect you to pay more.

I can't see AMD being much better now that the 7800XT has been renamed as the 7900XT as it'll mean the 7700XT becomes the 7800XT and that trend will continue down the stack so lower performance at a higher price point.

I agree, they've both shifted their entire stacks so the problems flow right down. This 4060 is in fact a 4050 that they will just sell for 4060 prices and that's why the performance looks bad.

This Ada Lovelace architecture is very good, efficient and powerful- it delivers up to 2x performance vs RTx3000 but Nvidia is not passing that to consumers, it's using every piece of performance it can to re-segment the stack to make sure that no one gets good value for money and they way they've done this by stack shifting - that's selling smaller lower end dies in a GPU that has a name which historically was used for larger higher end dies.

With the Ada Lovelace improvements a card like a 4060 should be much faster than a 3070, but it won't be because the 4060 is actually using a 4050's die and this way Nvidia gets to sell you a GPU with a real xx60 series price but Nvidia doesn't give you the extra performance you deserve, they instead tell you that you need to spend more
 
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Basically nvidia wants to give you the same performance as last gen at the same price points and if they give you more performance then they expect you to pay more.

I can't see AMD being much better now that the 7800XT has been renamed as the 7900XT as it'll mean the 7700XT becomes the 7800XT and that trend will continue down the stack so lower performance at a higher price point.
Yes if they're willing to use X twice for XTX there's no limit. R is a strong letter, XTXR
 
Nvidias thinking is that because they want to sell ampere alongside Lovelace the easiest way to do that is just make the equivalently priced newer gen parts the same speed while AMD are just toeing the line and will do the usual speed match up with Nvidia -£50
 
Still trying to defend your terrible maths skills, don't worry lad you can't be good at everything, at least you are good at attempting to be funny though. :cry:
Humans are like belly buttons, some are innies, some are outies, you are an innie I see.
 
Is this really the case on the release date for the lower end cards?

I have an R9 390 that has killed over and was waiting on these to decide on what to buy but thats like another 7 months away now
 
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