AMD are back at their shenanigans. When you take one step forwards, 3 steps back...

[Tired9]

We can officially call everyone who bought the 7900 series beta testers. They are also getting screwed royally by AMD, this is unacceptable.


Sources.

AMD accused of treating consumers as 'guinea pigs' by shipping unfinished RX 7900 GPUs

A possible black mark against an otherwise awesome graphics card

www.techradar.com

AMD's flagship RX 7900 XTX GPUs discovered to integrate A0 silicon revision affected by serious hardware issues

The problematic A0 silicon revision was apparently the reason why AMD delayed the launch of the flagship RDNA 3 GPUs by almost a year. Despite this, AMD still launched the RX 7900 cards with this stepping that is exhibiting high GPU clock variability, power draw issues and disabled shader...

www.notebookcheck.net

Rumors Allege AMD Shipped Unfinished RDNA 3 Navi 31 A0 GPU Silicon In Radeon RX 7900 Series

AMD Radeon RX 7900 series based on the RDNA 3 architecture have reportedly been shipped with an early & buggy A0 Navi 31 GPU silicon.

wccftech.com

AMD's flagship Navi 31 GPUs on the A0 stepping appears to have some hardware issues that are affecting performance. This is believed to be the cause for Navi 31's delay by 1 year, resulting in unfinished silicon and a shader prefetch problem. Power issues are exhibited in different programs where the GPU clock varies from as low as 2.2GHz to as high as 2.9GHz. Early RDNA 3 will appear to have a non-working shader prefetch problem, resulting in software patches that hope to correct this until newer revised RDNA 3 silicon can be released next year.

 

[TNA]

Lies. Good guy AMD and Lisa would never do this.

You should be on your knees thanking AMD for selling you a 6900 XT for £650 Tired, not spreading such filth around 5am in the morning. I am disappointed!

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[Tired9]

Lies. Good guy AMD and Lisa would never do this.

You should be on your knees thanking AMD for selling you a 6900 XT for £650 Tired, not spreading such filth around 5am in the morning. I am disappointed!

Spoiler

Please, we don't want to risk removed privledges from responding to threads because tardis's don't have ears.

 

[Hotwired]

AMD's flagship Navi 31 GPUs on the A0 stepping appears to have some hardware issues that are affecting performance. This is believed to be the cause for Navi 31's delay by 1 year, resulting in unfinished silicon and a shader prefetch problem. Power issues are exhibited in different programs where the GPU clock varies from as low as 2.2GHz to as high as 2.9GHz. Early RDNA 3 will appear to have a non-working shader prefetch problem, resulting in software patches that hope to correct this until newer revised RDNA 3 silicon can be released next year.

AMD Addresses Controversy: RDNA 3 Shader Pre-Fetching Works Fine

These aren't the bugs you're looking for.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[Tired9]

AMD Addresses Controversy: RDNA 3 Shader Pre-Fetching Works Fine

These aren't the bugs you're looking for.

www.tomshardware.com

And the power consumption issues and clock speed problems?

 

[Hotwired]

And the power consumption issues and clock speed problems?

I've not seen an AMD response on that.

 

[rare]

I've not seen an AMD response on that.

Well they’ve acknowledged the power draw topic in the latest driver, under ‘known issues’.

‘ High idle power has situationally been observed when using select high resolution and high refresh rate displays.’

Which is a public admittance to it and seems to signify there will be an improvement at a driver level.

And they’ve already addressed this rumour going around as per the above link.

So that’s two out of three things - now what’s the topic regarding clock speeds?

Seems like the Op is getting a bit carried away tbh.

 

[Tired9]

As a continuation of the unveiling thread, there is some severe performance problems as well overclocked 6900 XT's and stock 6950 XT can almost reach 7900 XT RT level performance and in some games there is even regression.

Backing up the above bench here is my 6900 XT vs the 7900 XT.

I scored 4 048 in Speed Way

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

This point on RT was ignored by everyone, so here it is again.

 

[rare]

There’s clearly some driver work that needs to be addressed but not sure how 180fps at 1440p in Guardians is a ‘severe’ performance issue. And the Metro numbers show the XTX as faster than the 6950xt.

Man this is some weak sauce if this is an apparent indication of ‘unacceptable’.

Just how is anyone being screwed ‘royalty’ by AMD? Not on any of the topics you’ve mentioned that’s for sure.

 

[Tired9]

There’s clearly some driver work that needs to be addressed but not sure how 180fps at 1440p in Guardians is a ‘severe’ performance issue. And the Metro numbers show the XTX as faster than the 6950xt.

Man this is some weak sauce if this is an apparent indication of ‘unacceptable’.

Just how is anyone being screwed ‘royalty’ by AMD? Not on any of the topics you’ve mentioned that’s for sure.

Ignore time just as you ignore the glaring issues.

 

[rare]

Ignore time just as you ignore the glaring issues.

Are these the ‘glaring issues’ we’ve already addressed above? One of them isn’t even an issue, AMD have already pubically addressed it on the link above.

Seems like you are outraged at pretty much nothing. Whipped yourself up into a frenzy over a storm in a tea cup.

 

[Tired9]

Are these the ‘glaring issues’ we’ve already addressed above? One of them isn’t even an issue, AMD have already pubically addressed it on the link above.

Seems like you are outraged at pretty much nothing. Whipped yourself up into a frenzy over a storm in a tea cup.

Performance regression, clock speed problems and messed up power consumption.
Yup no issues here.

RT performance from a card costing near 1K or above close to their top two previous gen cards retailing from 650-750 quid.

Yup no issues at all.

Ignorance is bliss, I do agree.


Ahh yes, AMD have said there is an issue in a patch note, never stopped those 5700 XT owners jumping ship when after all the driver updates the problem still existed, but I can give you the benefit of the doubt here, maybe they prove some of us wrong, that would be beautiful.

 

[TNA]

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[rare]

Mate it’s just a handful of driver issues that need to be resolved. The RT performance is substantially improved in numerous titles.

Not the first time in history a new GPU architecture requires some driver finessing.

I would hardly call it indicative of being ‘royally screwed’ by AMD.

 

[Tired9]

Mate it’s just a handful of driver issues that need to be resolved. The RT performance is substantially improved in numerous titles.

Not the first time in history a new GPU architecture requires some driver finessing.

I would hardly call it indicative of being ‘royally screwed’ by AMD.

We will find out.

But regardless if I had the money to decide between the Radeon 7000 or RTX 4000, no matter what way you slice it, for 200 more the 4080 IS better. You are getting a reliable experience, the 7000 series are unreliable, driver issues aside.

 

[TNA]

Mate it’s just a handful of driver issues that need to be resolved. The RT performance is substantially improved in numerous titles.

Not the first time in history a new GPU architecture requires some driver finessing.

I would hardly call it indicative of being ‘royally screwed’ by AMD.

Yea, in all seriousness I am sure AMD will eventually solve this via drivers.

My disappointment with them is pricing rather than hardware.

We will find out.

But regardless if I had the money to decide between the Radeon 7000 or RTX 4000, no matter what way you slice it, for 200 more the 4080 IS better. You are getting a reliable experience, the 7000 series are unreliable, driver issues aside.

Hey Tired, let me ask you something.

Are you regretting buying the 6900 XT? I mean first you been at it in the RT thread and now this, so got me wondering

 

[Tired9]

Yea, in all seriousness I am sure AMD will eventually solve this via drivers.

My disappointment with them is pricing rather than hardware.




Hey Tired, let me ask you something.

Are you regretting buying the 6900 XT? I mean first you been at it RT thread and now this, so got me wondering

No, I love the card, I just say things how I see it.
Drivers are rock solid stable and it's a noticely faster card than the 3070 it replaced.
Does my purchase need to be questioned in how I see things?

If you recall I benched a few games but I was never a spokesperson for RT. The 3070 delivers below the 6900 XT in RT perf especially overclocked.

I think people got hooked on those 6800 XT benchmarks forgetting the 6800 XT is missing the full RT core count the 6900 XT has.

 

[TNA]

No, I love the card, I just say things how I see it.
Drivers are rock solid stable and it's a noticely faster card than the 3070 it replaced.
Does my purchase need to be questioned in how I see things?

If you recall I benched a few games but I was never a spokesperson for RT. The 3070 delivers below the 6900 XT in RT perf especially overclocked.

I think people got hooked on those 6800 XT benchmarks forgetting the 6800 XT is missing the full RT core count the 6900 XT has.

Fair enough

By the way I agree the 4080 is the better card, but my feeling is who cares when they are priced the way they are.

AMD should have come in at no more than $799 and $649 and called the cards 7800 imo.

The 4080 price for that silicon is just a joke. Puts a smile on my face imagining Jensen saying "Ampere friends, it is now safe to upgrade" when next gen cards are out

 

[Tired9]

Fair enough

By the way I agree the 4080 is the better card, but my feeling is who cares when they are priced the way they are.

AMD should have come in at no more than $799 and $649 and called the cards 7800 imo.

The 4080 price for that silicon is just a joke. Puts a smile on my face imagining Jensen saying "Ampere friends, it is now safe to upgrade" when next gen cards are out

Well in the case of me pointing the finger at AMD royally screwing folks, both sides are, it's a true shame.

Nvidia are at least solid in the experience department for now.

 

[Hotwired]

AMD have tried something different and the performance is their best ever. Nothing but time will decide if the genuine issues are fixable or a feature of the new design.

Prices suck but that's a separate issue to performance. No one is getting screwed by anyone other than themselves when buying fancy toys.