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Queues stretching for hours show what it's really like owning a Tesla at Christmas
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I was thinking more to get to the charger
. I accept that's certainly not the norm.About a 35% drop. Would be interested if as feek questioned how much more that range drops with a fully loaded car.
The biggest issue I have with EV's is I would want to avoid putting the heater on in winter to try to eek out the maximum range. There are quite a few Tesla's near me. While my son used to get excited at seeing one, I am the total opposite and go weak at the knees when I see a 40 year old Land Rover Defender.
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I thought I'd do this but ended up doing the opposite. AC on all the time, prewarm before getting in the car, drive fast, no coasting - totally different to my previous car. The main reason being I can just top it off every few nights, it's cheap and more importantly I don't see the weekly fuel bill it's just mixed in with the utilities. My driving is more aggressive because breaking late isn't an issue as you just recoup the energy rather than wasting it and I'm not watching the MPG.
Yes if you're doing a long journey the temptation is to eek out more range but I just plan a pub stop, have lunch and leave almost fully charged.
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I wonder if Tesla owners are more reliant on the car software guiding re: charging so didn't bother destination charging but then the network got overwhelmed.
I've never had a Tesla but I understand the software usually will recommend a charging stop when putting in your route and normally this is very effective.
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All the company gophers in their company cars simply used the navigation in the car, takes them to only Superchargers and that’s the only one of the section of M6. So guess what, they all go there.
Amazing what a bit of planning could have done, it’s just like 364 days a year when you can jump in and drive.
You only learn through experience though I guess..
Amazing what a bit of planning could have done, it’s just like 364 days a year when you can jump in and drive.
You only learn through experience though I guess..
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These are people doing London to Scotland. Clearly a car full from home doesn’t do it and back without charging.
One of the benefits of having a Tesla is not needing to plan charging stops though - I had a quick look at the UK Supercharger map and it definitely seems quite thin, I'm surprised they aren't installing more to keep up with demand.
With the vertical integration Tesla have they route people to alternative chargers if the one they were originally aiming for is busy but you need a dense charging network to be able to do that...!
Around here there are so many Superchargers, it's crazy.
Cool, I'll just pop over to Norway to top my EV up.
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I did 2k miles in December, right up till Xmas eve, and every time I stopped at services, there was spare chargers, even stopped at Tebay on the way up to Glasgow!
We have to be careful with the sensationalist social media reporting, the network isn’t where is needs to be, but it’s still pretty dam usable.
We have to be careful with the sensationalist social media reporting, the network isn’t where is needs to be, but it’s still pretty dam usable.
Having had an EV for about 18 months, the infrastructure has definitely gotten better. The chargers are better/faster and seem to be working more, and there's new ones popping up relatively frequently. Google Maps now shows chargers and their availability as well now, meaning you don't need to use the god awful Zapmap.
Unfortunately, the infrastructure hasn't improved anywhere near enough. From my observations, the amount of new EV's on the road seems to be accelerating much quicker than the pace of the infrastructure improvements.
On the bright side, I think I've written off the EV now so by the time we get something sorted the infrastructure might be fixed
Unfortunately, the infrastructure hasn't improved anywhere near enough. From my observations, the amount of new EV's on the road seems to be accelerating much quicker than the pace of the infrastructure improvements.
On the bright side, I think I've written off the EV now so by the time we get something sorted the infrastructure might be fixed
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In my town there aren't any public chargers at all, the one that was installed no longer works and hasn't for the last 4+ years.
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Which of course will make the economics of electric vehicles spiral downwards. I would imagine there's a market for a small trailer mounted diesel generator to tow behind EV's for those who want reliable transportation at the moment <LOL>
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Put fifty quids worth of unleaded in my car yesterday, bought a crate of lager and chatted to the bloke on the till. 4 minutes tops...
You laugh but it does raise a few questions. Presumably if you run out of charge on the motorway you'd have to get towed off - don't think the vans will have the capacity to provide a quick charge.
It's also an offence to stop on the motorway due to running out of fuel - I'd guess the same would apply to running out of charge.
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Still a peak day, installing loads of capacity for these events. Means rest of the time the utilisation is poor. Clearly it’s a benefit for 51 weeks of the year
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Oh yeah for sure. As a main car unless it's a tax fiddle I'd really struggle. As a tax fiddle and a second car for nursery drop off and around town, it suits us.
Those paying full whack and doing minimal mileage need heads checking lol.
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I do think the range is very optimistic. I get maybe 200 miles out of my Model 3 performance, and around 150 in winter. I'm charging every 2 or 3 days, but as I have a charger at home it's less of an issue. I do wonder how all these people are going to charge with no drive. A guy I work with has offload parking, 100 metres away from his house, and that's a new estate 
. I'd say at least half of houses won't be able to charge at home. I suppose a large chunk of those people stuck in the queue might have been coming back from a relatives who didn't have a charger, or its just more than a 2-300 mile drive. Those fast chargers have got expensive though, I got some credit thing with octopus and there's a 50kw charger near me that's something like 56p/kwh
. Also I'd say while the teslas are far and away the most common ev, it's probably around 10% of cars are evs and thats around Hull, not exactly a rich area.
. I'd say at least half of houses won't be able to charge at home. I suppose a large chunk of those people stuck in the queue might have been coming back from a relatives who didn't have a charger, or its just more than a 2-300 mile drive. Those fast chargers have got expensive though, I got some credit thing with octopus and there's a 50kw charger near me that's something like 56p/kwh. Also I'd say while the teslas are far and away the most common ev, it's probably around 10% of cars are evs and thats around Hull, not exactly a rich area.
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I have a captur phev and got the Mrs a zoe. I gave the zoe a go on a trip to Cardiff. The way down was fine but the gridserve charger on the way back was a joke. We had a trip planned to Isle of arran. I had researched charging and it was looking promising, but after the Cardiff trip decided to take the captur. The zoe did around 200 miles to a charge in summer but in the recent cold it was just over 100. I've no idea what my phev could do as the charger flap froze shut, so I couldn't charge it. This also meant no pre heating as it requires charge for this. My old volvo I could just start the engine in the app. Also the heater in my phev is crap when running in electric only mode. And while petrol is getting cheaper electricity prices appear to be only heading up. I think my enthusiasm for ev has waned recently.