Anyone with twins/young kids who can offer some car advice?

Nice, as said I have a Kodiaq but I've got 5 kids. If I had less I'd definitely be looking at the Superb Estate. It amuses me that Skoda's fastest car isn't a VRS :D

Crazy isn't it? The Police force up here use the Superb estate 4x4 as a undercover.
 
Each to their own.

Briefly watching that the thing that stands out for me is how 'small' the car looks, it's a good illustration of how cars have grown, that MPV basically looks like Clio on steroids (I appreciate the reduced ride height and spoiler is the main reason).
 
You need an Emmaljunga Double Viking. Epic twin buggy. If you get a Superb Estate it'll be a breeze :D
You really don't need to be spending upwards of £1000 for a great double buggy. I'll reiterate that we found the Out 'n' About Twin nipper an amazing buggy that ticked all the boxes and came in at a pretty reasonable price. It's light enough (even for my wife) to get in the car, easy to put up and down, robust enough to take it off road, and narrow enough to fit through regular doors. My only regret is not discovering it until we'd tried various other prams/buggies. Out 'n' about twin nipper review
 
Nice, as said I have a Kodiaq but I've got 5 kids. If I had less I'd definitely be looking at the Superb Estate. It amuses me that Skoda's fastest car isn't a VRS :D
Genuine question as I looked a Kodiaq last year, where do you put all your stuff if you use all the 6 and 7th seats? It looks like you lose most of the boot space?
 
Genuine question as I looked a Kodiaq last year, where do you put all your stuff if you use all the 6 and 7th seats? It looks like you lose most of the boot space?
I rarely have them all in the car at once but with 6 seats up there's still a fair amount of room. With 7 seats up I can fit the pram in the boot and the kids have to hold their stuff or shove it in the foot wells. I'm going to invest in a roof box later this year as I've got a couple of holidays booked.
 
So quick update on this. After very nearly pulling the trigger on a Skoda Superb Estate the wife pulled the plug on it and wanted to revisit the SUV idea. Ever since we got rid of the Tiguan a few years ago she’s wanted one again and she’s made her mind up that she’d rather have one than an estate…

So, we’re going to be trading in her 320i and I’ll get to keep the Golf R which is a bit of a result for me really in some ways.

We’ve put a deposit down on a 2017 Volvo XC90 T8. It’s got 47000 miles on it, approved used Volvo with the following notable options:
- Winter pack with HUD
- Xenium Pack (360 cameras, auto parking, panoramic sunroof)
- Dynamic Pack (not sure what this gives, maybe the 22 inch alloys)
- Blindspot monitoring system
- Air suspension
- CarPlay

The only thing it’s really missing I would have personally liked is an upgraded sound system but she’s not too bothered and thinks the standard system is fine. Oh, and it’s ‘Passion Red’ which wouldn’t be my first choice but I actually think it looks quite good in a ‘big red bus’ sort of way. And I’ve already named it Clifford after the giant red dog.

I guess the only thing I’m a little nervous of is the complexity of the car and the potential for something like the electric motor to go pop, but I’ll get the year approved warranty included and then will extend it at the end.

The T8 should do us alright, I’ve got home charging available (albeit it’s not super cheap electricity as we’re stuck on the single variable rate and can’t get a smart meter due to no mobile signal on any network) so I’m hopeful that short trips should be done on mostly electric and longer journeys not utterly terrible in hybrid mode - but we will see.

It’s a car that will tick a lot of boxes hopefully and I’m really hopeful will see us good for a good few years to come.

Picking it up either this weekend or next. Thanks again for all of the advice, I’ve really appreciated it.
 
You sure an xc90 is big enough and you don't want something like a transit instead :D.
It is a rather big beast :D but having tried a lot of different cars we were genuinely limited by what we could both drive comfortably (and in some cases, at all) with rear facing car seats in the back behind us both.

In the end we figured that if we’re going to need to get something big, might as well get something that has 7 seats and will do is for the foreseeable.
 
what kind of warranty does that indicate , is it initially economic to extend that out beyond the year(?)
So you get the same warranty as you would a new car, but for a year, direct wit the dealer as part of the used approved purchase.

In terms of extending it after that, I'll see what sort of price it'll cost to extend the warranty and go from there. Surely it would be cheaper than a major component failing so a must have you'd assume.
 
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So… utter disaster today. We went and stayed at a hotel last night so we could collect the XC90 at 9am. Car absolutely not as described. The exterior all good, but the interior was an utter mess. Every single panel scratched, one of the alcantara seats stained and damaged where someone has been scrubbing it, nearly all the plastics scratched horrifically. Hadn’t been valeted properly either, so crumbs, old chocolate and even a few bugs dotted around the cubbies in the car.

Now while I don’t expect a 2017 car to be perfect by any stretch, but none of this had been mentioned to us in the weeks before visiting. Spoke to the sales manager who basically shrugged his shoulders, offered to ‘valet it again’ but wouldn’t do anything about any of the interior trim that was heavily damaged.

Refunded the deposit and we walked away.

So, back to the drawing board really. We had plenty of time driving back to south wales from Leicester to consider our options again, and I think we’re going back to the plan of spending no more than £30k on a car. We popped into Volvo Bristol on the way home just to see what their higher mileage used XC90s were like, and they were all in much better condition than the one we tried in Leicester - but mrs spleen had been so put off that she wants to try other options again now.

Plus side, she tried a V90 and really liked it so that’s now an option she wouldn’t have considered before. Will get her to try an A6 Avant this weekend too.

We’ll probably end up with a Superb Estate like I originally decided on :D
 
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Now while I don’t expect a 2017 car to be perfect by any stretch, but none of this had been mentioned to us in the weeks before visiting. Spoke to the sales manager who basically shrugged his shoulders, offered to ‘valet it again’ but wouldn’t do anything about any of the interior trim that was heavily damaged.

That is terrible even a basic valet should have cleaned up most of what you are talking about - depends a bit what kind of mileage and price but personally I'd expect a 2017 car to be in reasonable state - I bought a 2017 car recently on 40K miles and it was close to immaculate inside - just a few scratches on the top of the shifter.
 
That is terrible even a basic valet should have cleaned up most of what you are talking about - depends a bit what kind of mileage and price but personally I'd expect a 2017 car to be in reasonable state - I bought a 2017 car recently on 40K miles and it was close to immaculate inside - just a few scratches on the top of the shifter.
So all of the metallic trim on the interior of the car was scratched up and marked. I'd have expected a couple of scratches or dings but we're talking scratched to the point where it looks like kids have tried to draw on it with something pointy. One of the metallic panels on the driver side rear had ink stains on it too, again - nothing mentioned. The videos that they'd provided me before going (with potatocam, low fps of course) he mentioned none of this.

Another example was that both the door handles inside the car were damaged, which must have taken some doing. Very clear that the previous owner(s) paid absolutely no attention to looking after the car. The car had done just under 47000 miles and was £37.5k for reference.

My Golf R is a 67 plate car and I went in knowing it was fairly ropey when I bought it - and it was still in better condition than the XC90 we went to see.
 
So all of the metallic trim on the interior of the car was scratched up and marked. I'd have expected a couple of scratches or dings but we're talking scratched to the point where it looks like kids have tried to draw on it with something pointy. One of the metallic panels on the driver side rear had ink stains on it too, again - nothing mentioned. The videos that they'd provided me before going (with potatocam, low fps of course) he mentioned none of this.

Another example was that both the door handles inside the car were damaged, which must have taken some doing. Very clear that the previous owner(s) paid absolutely no attention to looking after the car. The car had done just under 47000 miles and was £37.5k for reference.

My Golf R is a 67 plate car and I went in knowing it was fairly ropey when I bought it - and it was still in better condition than the XC90 we went to see.
I agree, my last car was 13 plate and there were hardly any scratches, it was like new. Imo a 17 plate should be pristine, obviously it depends on how much the owner cares.
 
I agree, my last car was 13 plate and there were hardly any scratches, it was like new. Imo a 17 plate should be pristine, obviously it depends on how much the owner cares.
I sort of expected a bit of wear and tear because of the type of car that it is, being a family wagon and all that - but this was something else.

Ah well. Off to look at an Audi A6 Avant tomorrow, hell of a lot cheaper and the mrs seems to like the idea of getting another Audi.
 
So all of the metallic trim on the interior of the car was scratched up and marked. I'd have expected a couple of scratches or dings but we're talking scratched to the point where it looks like kids have tried to draw on it with something pointy. One of the metallic panels on the driver side rear had ink stains on it too, again - nothing mentioned. The videos that they'd provided me before going (with potatocam, low fps of course) he mentioned none of this.

Another example was that both the door handles inside the car were damaged, which must have taken some doing. Very clear that the previous owner(s) paid absolutely no attention to looking after the car. The car had done just under 47000 miles and was £37.5k for reference.

My Golf R is a 67 plate car and I went in knowing it was fairly ropey when I bought it - and it was still in better condition than the XC90 we went to see.
My guess the previous owner had a small dog. I've seen similar damage and the reason was a couple of small dogs let lose in the rear for trips because they didn't want to cage them or put them in the boot
 
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