I'm surprised, just because I thought this generation's coolers were so overbuilt? Is the 4090 that much hotter thasn the 4080? I have a suprm 4080 and even if I put the power to max and apply a heavy OC the fans barely turn on. I don't think I've seen it over 54 degrees
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Inno3d Ichill X3 RTX 4090
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I don't know to be honest, I'm trying to find out online what the official actual max safe hotspot is before either degrading the core or throttling and I can't seem to find a clear answer.
Some say 95c max some say 110c, This is just hearsay I really have no Idea without trying to find out from Nvidia themselves.
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Yeah the 4080's use the same cooler as the 4090, That extra wattage of the 4090 makes quite a bit of difference in temps and heat compared to the 4080.
This is like a worst case scenario ie maxing a game out in 4k and pushing the GPU to the max.
Obviously this doesn't happen 100% of the time but still a GPU should be within spec at full load, If it's like this with an ambient temp of 18c then I'm pretty certain it's going to be worse in summer.
I should add I even tried with the case off and made 0 difference really but to be honest I didn't think it would as it's in a O11 Dynamic XL with 13 x 120mm fans so case cooling is not an issue it's the cooler of the GPU not mounted properly or inno has used either too stiff Vram pads or not pasted this core properly.
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Something is definitely wrong with that cooler. Should be no where near 101c especially at only 450w.
www.kitguru.net
Kitguru review above only had 72.9 on the hotspot.
I'd RMA that.
Inno3D RTX 4090 X3 OC Review - KitGuru
As this review goes live, RTX 4090 has launched at retail. Yesterday we presented our in-depth revie
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Kitguru review above only had 72.9 on the hotspot.
I'd RMA that.
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I saw that review, It does seem something is up with this cooler, They're only getting around an 8c delta on the X3 according to Kit Guru I'm seeing 23c.Something is definitely wrong with that cooler. Should be no where near 101c especially at only 450w.
Inno3D RTX 4090 X3 OC Review - KitGuru
As this review goes live, RTX 4090 has launched at retail. Yesterday we presented our in-depth revie
Kitguru review above only had 72.9 on the hotspot.
I'd RMA that.
I think I'll speak to OCUK tomorrow and see what they say.
throttle limit is usualy 95c but on that HWINFO64 read out it says 84c...but having 101c on GPU is not safe limit.
check the sensor with GPUZ
also what PSU are you using?
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Yeah I noticed that readout in Hwinfo which says 84, I think that means the core though not the hotspot.
I've currently got a Seasonic 850w Gold PSU, About 3 years old.
I'm going to do some further testing with GPUz and some stress tests to see what an average is it's getting to fully stressing the GPU with Vsync off in a few games and a few stress tests, Probably Aida 64, Timespy Extreme and Port Royal then test a few games with Vsync off if it's over 100c on more than one test I'll start an RMA.
Sounds like your card is missing some thermal pads, you can buy it and put it where it's missing.
Why should they have to do that though? If they are missing then it should be replaced. Potentially destroying warranty for something that should be working properly doesn't strike me as a good move.
It's just another solution, he can do the RMA, but it will take forever since Inno3d service center in HK only.
within first year, the return is with the SHOP, so OCUK will look to replace with exact same product or offer replacement of same value or refund original amount
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do you have anything else connected to the PCIE side on that PSU? i assume you are using the 4xPCIE8 to 12VHPWR adaptor that came with the card?
maybe try a) check the adaptor connection is pushed all the way in and solid or try a different adaptor b) unplug anything that is drawing off the 12V PCIE rail c) disconnect your case fans and RGB etc and just run the bare essentially and leave the case open air for now d) last thing is try a bigger PSU rating if possible?
also what is the part number for the PSU?
not sure if the hotspot reading is also registering MOSFET temp. those things will run hot if there is some issue in the power delivery. but GPU hot spot is understood to be somewhere on the core itself...
do you have anything else connected to the PCIE side on that PSU? i assume you are using the 4xPCIE8 to 12VHPWR adaptor that came with the card?
maybe try a) check the adaptor connection is pushed all the way in and solid or try a different adaptor b) unplug anything that is drawing off the 12V PCIE rail c) disconnect your case fans and RGB etc and just run the bare essentially and leave the case open air for now d) last thing is try a bigger PSU rating if possible?
also what is the part number for the PSU?
not sure if the hotspot reading is also registering MOSFET temp. those things will run hot if there is some issue in the power delivery. but GPU hot spot is understood to be somewhere on the core itself...
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Hi,
No there's nothing else on the PCIE, The adaptor that comes with the innos is only a 3 way adapter but I'm not using that I'm using a cablemod 12VHPWR to 3 x PCIE cable Seasonic direct cable to PSU.
I am looking at getting a 1kw ATX 3.0 PSU when they finally arrive on our shores it's currently delay after delay with the Seasonics.
The PSU is this one, all voltages are fine according to software readings, It's been a solid PSU so far not had any issues with it.
Seasonic SSR-850FX FOCUS Plus Gold 850W (80+Gold, ATX 12V) PSU/Power Supply - Black https://amzn.eu/d/8a5PfZu
I do think it hasn't been assembled properly either not enough paste or not torqued down properly or Vram pads slightly too thick but I don't want to mess with it as it will just void the warranty.
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I don't think it's thermal pads that's the issue, That would make my Vram temps go through the roof and as it happens the Vram on this GPU is excellent, Rarely do I see it hit 70-72c at full load, Most times when gaming it's anything from in the 50's-60's for Vram temp.
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Is this the case? I didn't know that, I've been trying to figure out the RMA process length of time and did notice they do seem to have an EU service point I think, Can't remember where I saw it.
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Jeez i've only done one test Aida 64 less than 2 mins in and these are the idle and final results.
Just removed the side panel to rule out a case flow issue which I know it wasn't anyway but 100.4c less than 2 mins in Aida 64 GPU stress test only and it wasn't even using the full 450w the max wattage it peaked at with Aida was 395w.
That's a 25c delta it's even worse than I thought, I don't think that's acceptable is it?
Just removed the side panel to rule out a case flow issue which I know it wasn't anyway but 100.4c less than 2 mins in Aida 64 GPU stress test only and it wasn't even using the full 450w the max wattage it peaked at with Aida was 395w.
That's a 25c delta it's even worse than I thought, I don't think that's acceptable is it?
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Just to add after 1 Timespy Extreme test I got 75.4c and 97.9 for core and hotspot again but weirdly even though the wattage was maxed out this time in the timespy test the actual hotspot temp was aa couple of degrees less, I'm guessing that's because it's not a stress test and it's changing scenes and in motion.
If it's like any other RMAs past 30 days and under a year OCUK will collect the GPU, test it themselves and then send it to the manufacturer themselves.
I believe it's up to 28 days to get a replacement obviously it can be even quicker than that.
Guessing poor thermal paste/ contact with the core or something with the vapour chamber with your card.
I believe it's up to 28 days to get a replacement obviously it can be even quicker than that.
Guessing poor thermal paste/ contact with the core or something with the vapour chamber with your card.
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Not the longest of waits but I don't have a spare so kinda stuck, Well other than the onboard 12900K VGA
I wish most of these retailers did quicker turnarounds from the manufacturer, I don't see an issue with a retailer testing a product then informing the manufacturer and getting one sent out from the retailer if they have already confirmed it as faulty.
Consumer laws are pretty good in this country but they could be better.
Yeah after doing a few more tests tonight I am quite confident there is a paste/ contact issue here, Shouldn't be seeing that large of a gap.
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Update...
Just to update anyone else who owns an Ichill X3 4090 and with temp issues, I decided to remove the heatsink today and clean and repaste with Noctua NT-H2 paste I had around here I use for the CPU's and wow what can I say what a difference!
I've been playing more of A Plague Tale Requiem lately and got fed up with the 80c core temps and Hotspot hitting 107c at one point and also HwInfo reported that "Performance Limit Thermal" was reached I am guessing it was because of the Hotspot.
There was plenty of paste on the core and it didn't look to bad to be fair, There was a little dry spot where maybe contact or not enough paste was used but either way I don't know what paste Inno use but imo it's rubbish from what I could tell.
Those temps above are all stock including stock fans, Just ran TimeSpy Extreme pulling a max of 447W and it's now 66.7 Core and 78.9 Hotspot! Way way better than what it was before, I get 5-12c delta in games and maxed out now even with stock low fan speed and 445w.
I am extremely happy with these temps on air now however this was my first Inno GPU and first GPU I have ever owned I have had an issue with these sort of hight temps, Don't think I will purchase anything from them again.
Just to update anyone else who owns an Ichill X3 4090 and with temp issues, I decided to remove the heatsink today and clean and repaste with Noctua NT-H2 paste I had around here I use for the CPU's and wow what can I say what a difference!
I've been playing more of A Plague Tale Requiem lately and got fed up with the 80c core temps and Hotspot hitting 107c at one point and also HwInfo reported that "Performance Limit Thermal" was reached I am guessing it was because of the Hotspot.
There was plenty of paste on the core and it didn't look to bad to be fair, There was a little dry spot where maybe contact or not enough paste was used but either way I don't know what paste Inno use but imo it's rubbish from what I could tell.
Those temps above are all stock including stock fans, Just ran TimeSpy Extreme pulling a max of 447W and it's now 66.7 Core and 78.9 Hotspot! Way way better than what it was before, I get 5-12c delta in games and maxed out now even with stock low fan speed and 445w.
I am extremely happy with these temps on air now however this was my first Inno GPU and first GPU I have ever owned I have had an issue with these sort of hight temps, Don't think I will purchase anything from them again.