Looking to enter pc gaming again…

rchads89 said:
Tbh I was looking at what games like cod, overwatch 2, apex and battlefield 2042 run at spec wise to give me some type of guide on how hardware holds up over the years but suppose that’s the wrong way to look at it as it’s not a guarantee on how long the above build lasts. Like to think it would last awhile.
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Personally I like to look at 'worst case' games now (like forspoken) because it's entirely possible that they could be the 'best case' in 5 years.... I'd like to think that a 'top of the line' machine would last but sadly I wouldn't rely on that theory for AAA games...

Either way I doubt the issue would be with the cpu side of things, it would be more gpu so the alternative approach would have been to go for a 4080 instead of a 4090 and then budget in a gpu upgrade in a few years but amd and nvidia have openly admitted to fixing prices to keep the profits up like during covid/scalpers/miner period of the last few years so it's completely misplaced in the cost to performance metric and the 4090 is just a no brainer in comparison if you're paying over 1200 anyway..

rchads89 said:
I’ll wait abit longer then for reviews on these new CPUs before rushing in. I only get to play my Xbox 2-3 times a week so not in a massive rush :)
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Would likely be the safest bet but to be fair it might take a few months for any issues to crop up or get ironed out.


I do agree with the above about storage, I missed the 1TB in your original post, I'd be going for minimum of 2TB and you can always add in another later (most boards have more than one nvme)... I wouldn't be bothering with pcie5 though, pcie4 is more than enough imo.
 
lsg1r said:
Personally I like to look at 'worst case' games now (like forspoken) because it's entirely possible that they could be the 'best case' in 5 years.... I'd like to think that a 'top of the line' machine would last but sadly I wouldn't rely on that theory for AAA games...

Either way I doubt the issue would be with the cpu side of things, it would be more gpu so the alternative approach would have been to go for a 4080 instead of a 4090 and then budget in a gpu upgrade in a few years but amd and nvidia have openly admitted to fixing prices to keep the profits up like during covid/scalpers/miner period of the last few years so it's completely misplaced in the cost to performance metric and the 4090 is just a no brainer in comparison if you're paying over 1200 anyway..


Would likely be the safest bet but to be fair it might take a few months for any issues to crop up or get ironed out.


I do agree with the above about storage, I missed the 1TB in your original post, I'd be going for minimum of 2TB and you can always add in another later (most boards have more than one nvme)... I wouldn't be bothering with pcie5 though, pcie4 is more than enough imo.
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It was X2 1 tb 980s but I see the point on the storage.

This game then the forspoken I don’t think it’s my type of game at all but I see people suggest it for like a benchmark. I’ve read that the ps5 can run it at 60fps and if it’s as heavy as people are making out ps5 done well there to achieve that!
 
rchads89 said:
It was X2 1 tb 980s but I see the point on the storage.

This game then the forspoken I don’t think it’s my type of game at all but I see people suggest it for like a benchmark. I’ve read that the ps5 can run it at 60fps and if it’s as heavy as people are making out ps5 done well there to achieve that!
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I've copied the specs below for forspoken so you can see why I used it as a reference.... this is what we get on pc as a console port that in all honest doesn't look particularly great compared with some older games let alone Cypberpunk for example. Now it probably isn't your type of game but at the same time you don't want to limit yourself in what you could play later down the line.

Forspoken's Minimum Requirements

  • OS: Windows 10 64 bits / Windows 11 64 bits
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (3,7 GHz or better) / Intel Core i7-3770 (3,7 GHz or better)
  • Video card: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB VRAM
  • Memory: 16GB RAM
  • Display resolution: 720p 30 fps
  • HDD/SDD space: HDD 150GB or more

Forspoken's Recommended Requirements​


  • OS: Windows 10 64 bits / Windows 11 64 bits
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (3,7 GHz or better) / Intel Core i7-8700K (3,7 GHz or better)
  • Video card: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB VRAM
  • Memory: 24GB RAM
  • Display resolution: 1440p 30 fps
  • HDD/SDD: SSD 150GB or more

Forspoken's Ultra 4K Requirements​


  • OS: Windows 10 64 bits / Windows 11 64 bits
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5800X (3,8 GHz or better) / Intel Core i7-12700
  • Video card: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB VRAM
  • Memory: 32GB RAM
  • Display resolution: 2160p 60 fps
  • HDD/SDD: SSD NVMe 150GB or more
 
lsg1r said:
I've copied the specs below for forspoken so you can see why I used it as a reference.... this is what we get on pc as a console port that in all honest doesn't look particularly great compared with some older games let alone Cypberpunk for example. Now it probably isn't your type of game but at the same time you don't want to limit yourself in what you could play later down the line.

Forspoken's Minimum Requirements

  • OS: Windows 10 64 bits / Windows 11 64 bits
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (3,7 GHz or better) / Intel Core i7-3770 (3,7 GHz or better)
  • Video card: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB VRAM
  • Memory: 16GB RAM
  • Display resolution: 720p 30 fps
  • HDD/SDD space: HDD 150GB or more

Forspoken's Recommended Requirements​


  • OS: Windows 10 64 bits / Windows 11 64 bits
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (3,7 GHz or better) / Intel Core i7-8700K (3,7 GHz or better)
  • Video card: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB VRAM
  • Memory: 24GB RAM
  • Display resolution: 1440p 30 fps
  • HDD/SDD: SSD 150GB or more

Forspoken's Ultra 4K Requirements​


  • OS: Windows 10 64 bits / Windows 11 64 bits
  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5800X (3,8 GHz or better) / Intel Core i7-12700
  • Video card: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT 16GB / NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB VRAM
  • Memory: 32GB RAM
  • Display resolution: 2160p 60 fps
  • HDD/SDD: SSD NVMe 150GB or more
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Damn that’s shocking tbh
 
Thanks for making me see sense chaps I haven’t made the purchase of the pc I have instead bought a ps5 which I’m enjoying. I’ll just keep switching between the 2 consoles!
 
tamzzy said:
you not joining the #pcmasterrace then?
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No I can see it going one way like it always does lasts a couple of months and I’ll bin it off and take a big loss done it 2-3 times now I’ll learn my lesson this time with prices being the way they are.
 
rchads89 said:
take a big loss done it 2-3 times now I’ll learn my lesson this time with prices being the way they are.
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can't tell you what to do, but if you really really want to get back into pc gaming then you can go mid-range value
yes if you do bin it in a few months time, you will lose money, but not a significantly as you would if you went top end £3k
a £1k rig is sufficient
 
eg: £900 for this setup

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £902.87 (includes delivery: £7.99)​



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