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Given the proposed government ban on ‘laughing gas’ how does this affect tuners etc who use it in cars?
Not something that seems to have been covered and not sure how popular it is over here in the car scene?

Just curious really!
 
Nothing will come of this because the government is clutching at straws trying to get all the gammon votes
 
Personally don't think I've ever seen discarded canisters of it from recreational use or know anyone who uses it recreationally despite the headline hysteria (I know plenty of people who do other recreational substances).

Though the law is kind of awkward it would be recreational use/supply which is banned - if you can prove you are using it for something like car tuning you'd *probably* avoid any legal repercussions *probably* but I know people who've had problems with the law with kind of similar stuff where the police don't actually understand what they are dealing with, etc. one YouTuber I follow narrowly escaped prison due to heavy handed application of the law.
 
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Personally don't think I've ever seen discarded canisters of it from recreational use or know anyone who uses it recreationally despite the headline hysteria (I know plenty of people who do other recreational substances).

Though the law is kind of awkward it would be recreational use/supply which is banned - if you can prove you are using it for something like car tuning you'd *probably* avoid any legal repercussions *probably* but I know people who've had problems with the law with kind of similar stuff where the police don't actually understand what they are dealing with, etc. one YouTuber I follow narrowly escaped prison due to heavy handed application of the law.
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I have seen loads in rural laybays etc. I ran past the aftermath of a crash on rural road (car had been recovered but plenty of broken car still left behind) and there were a good 20 of those small canisters left over.

It was/is legal to have it fitted to a car, just not use it on the road IIRC. For drag racers, I assume they will be SOL if anyones still using it.
 
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Ha. It was actually F&F that got me thinking about.
Not something that would directly affect me - would a Smart handle all that powweeerrrr?

@dLockers I presume there is another meaning I am not familiar with?
 
Move quite a few cylinders of the stuff around on a daily basis, mainly CD sized cylinders. The gas storage bunker under the helipad is full of the stuff.
 
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Interesting to see the forum moderators haven't updated the rules for NOS use. It's like a free for all here.
 
Air Products and BOC will still rent NOS cylinders to industry, it's used in all sorts of processes that aren't going to be banned! There may be some tighter scrutiny of whether the renter / purchaser of NOS has a legitimate industrial usage, and how it might or might not be resold, but NOS isn't disappearing.

As an oxygent for an IC engine it is nothing like as popular for road cars as it was in the early days. The cost and inconvenience of refilling small bottles unless you buy a very expensive transfer pump and decant from full size bottles, the insurance situation, and the amount of damage the temptation of going up "a bit" on jet sizes can do has pushed it back into a very niche market.

My transfer pump is used for TIG and MIG welding gasses these days and my full size NOS bottles went off rental years ago, the refilling and installation demand all but disappeared.

I do have some pistons with totally crushed ring lands in my black museum as testimony to the excesses of young customers though ;) "It went like hell for a second or two then made this terrible knocking, now it seems to be seized, is it going to be expensive to fix?"

Mentally rubbing hands together, "Yes, I am afraid it is, just get it left over there and then give me the keys". :)
 
The only technically similar alternatives to NOS are pressure charging, be it by a mechanically driven supercharger, or an exhaust gas driven turbocharger, (or both...) to add a lot more air. But then as you say, you need to manage the new requirements for fuel and ignition events.

NOS with a dedicated EMS works ok, albeit only for the short time the bottle of gas lasts. It's ideal for spooling up a big turbo very quickly though, for the likes of (spits) drag racing.
 
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