New 7800X3D / 4090 build

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I'm planning a build based around the above and was hoping you good people might be able to look at what I've come up with below and let me know if you're got any suggestions for improvements, any howling mistakes, or just general criticism really (I've put the 7900X3D in as a placeholder). This will be for gaming at 1440 (also need to get a new monitor but that's a whole separate decision). I realise a 4090 is probably overkill but don't upgrade often and want to treat myself, coming from a 2700X and Vega 56 so will be a significant jump!
One dilemma I have is that I was planning to ask ocuk to quote to build it, but won't be able to do so until the 7800X3D has launched, and guessing it will sell out instantly. I'm half tempted to build it myself, ordering most of the parts now and then hoping I can grab a 7800X3D on launch day, but I'd rather not really. I'll need to change a couple of parts if I do that as the PSU and cooler are currently out of stock.
Really not sure which 4090 to go for, my main worry is coil whine, but that seems to be a bit of a minefield whichever you pick.
I've picked those WD drives as they seem to be regularly recommended here, though I'm not sure if there are any better options now the sn850x is no longer on offer.

My basket at OcUK:

Total: £3,576.77 (includes delivery: £11.99)​



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I would get a cheaper board (B650 Aorus Elite has a solid VRM, 8-layer PCB, 3x m.2, but sound isn't great), memory and stick with the SN770, since I consider the SN850X too expensive now.

Switched the placeholder CPU to 7900X.

(unchanged) Phanteks Eclipse G500A D-RGB Mid-tower PC case - Satin Black - £149.99
**Promo** Phanteks M25 140mm D-RGB PWM High-Airflow Chassis Fan - Black - £0.00
(unchanged) MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - £159.95

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X Twelve Core 5.60GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £458.98
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £269.99
Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32) - £139.99

Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card - £1,700.00

2 X WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) - £136.99

Grand Total: £3,164.87 (includes delivery, £11.99)

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What monitor are you going for? I got the AW3423DWF a few weeks back, was tempted by the 4090 but went for the Sapphire 7900XTX Nitro+. I’m also hoping to grab a 7800X3D as also building a new gaming pc
 
Tetras said:
I would get a cheaper board (B650 Aorus Elite has a solid VRM, 8-layer PCB, 3x m.2, but sound isn't great), memory and stick with the SN770, since I consider the SN850X too expensive now.

Switched the placeholder CPU to 7900X.

(unchanged) Phanteks Eclipse G500A D-RGB Mid-tower PC case - Satin Black - £149.99
**Promo** Phanteks M25 140mm D-RGB PWM High-Airflow Chassis Fan - Black - £0.00
(unchanged) MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - £159.95

AMD Ryzen 9 7900X Twelve Core 5.60GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail - £458.98
Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard - £269.99
Kingston FURY Beast EXPO 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF560C36BBEK2-32) - £139.99

Zotac GeForce RTX 4090 Trinity 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card - £1,700.00

2 X WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) - £136.99

Grand Total: £3,164.87 (includes delivery, £11.99)

Suggest this for the cooler:

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Thanks, my thinking on the board was that I may as well go PCIe 5 for possible future upgrades, and while I'm paying as much as I am I figured I may as well, but I'll have a think about that. As far as the memory is concerned, don't judge me but I wanted the RGB. I think you're probably right about the SN850X, I imagine I won't notice much real world difference.
The Zotac card you've put down is the one I was originally going to go with but I changed it as there was no stock, but I think that will probably depend on what's available at the time.
Thanks for the cooler suggestion, I didn't realise an air cooler would be up to the job, I'll check out the link. Though probably not an option if I stick with my plan of getting ocuk to do the build.
 
fowler002 said:
What monitor are you going for? I got the AW3423DWF a few weeks back, was tempted by the 4090 but went for the Sapphire 7900XTX Nitro+. I’m also hoping to grab a 7800X3D as also building a new gaming pc
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Honestly not sure at the moment, I was thinking maybe the 'Gigabyte M27Q X' but hoping for an offer on this or similar. The one you've gone for does look amazing but I don't think I want an ultrawide, just a 27" 1440 really (I've got a 24" 1080 at the moment). I was half temped to pick up a Dell S2721DGFA the other week when it was on offer for £250, and then see where OLEDs are in a couple of years.
 
mark43 said:
Thanks, my thinking on the board was that I may as well go PCIe 5 for possible future upgrades
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One nice thing with AMD is that all but the lowest-end boards still get 1 PCI-E 5.0 SSD, so you usually only lose the graphics with a non-E board. From looking at PCI-E scaling articles (link for 4090), it is only cards with 4 (or, much less so, 8) lanes that lose any significant performance when one gen down, for all others (including a 4090), it is a few %. For me, that's not worth it. I'd be buying one of the lowest-end boards with 3 M.2 I could get (like the B650 Gigabyte Gaming X, though unlike the Elite, all M.2 slots are PCI-E 4.0).

I only chose the Zotac because of the warranty length.
 
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It seems the PSU I was planning on has jumped from £160 to £220 as well as being out of stock. Anyone got any suggestions for a good alternative 1000W PSU, I'm not sure which are decent brands for PSUs tbh.

I was thinking maybe this one for £150, though that's also now out of stock - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/be-q...-3.0-80-plus-gold-power-supply-ca-14q-bq.html
Or maybe this for £200 - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ther...ie-5-80-plus-gold-power-supply-ca-1bn-tt.html
Obviously I don't want to overspend on one unnecessarily, but happy to pay more for a decent one if it makes sense.
 
That is agressive pricing on the be quiet, ATX 3.0 1000w gold+ for £150 with 10 year warranty. No wonder it is out of stock when it looks like such a good deal.

Both are good but if you can shop around and only spend £150 then that is just a better deal.
 
Tetras said:
From what I saw, the GF3 got good reviews, don't know much about be quiet psus.
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850w version review here.

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be quiet have been making decent mid tier psus for years. With the ATX spec being so insane to actually meet it and have to be able to supply double the listed Wattage for short bursts then any psu that passes is going to be very good. It would take real skill to pass the certification for an ATX 3.0 psu and it still to be bad, I really hope Gigabyte to not take this as a challenge.
 
Thank you both. Will probably depend on the stock situation when I finally place an order but looks like a couple of decent options.
 
Sorry, can I trouble you good people with another question, still tinkering with my build.
I noticed this suggested for another build yesterday and thought it may be better for me as well as its lower latency and cheaper, but no EXPO. Am I right in thinking if I have no intention of overclocking then I don't need EXPO, or is it still useful for any other reason I'm missing?
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mark43 said:
Sorry, can I trouble you good people with another question, still tinkering with my build.
I noticed this suggested for another build yesterday and thought it may be better for me as well as its lower latency and cheaper, but no EXPO. Am I right in thinking if I have no intention of overclocking then I don't need EXPO, or is it still useful for any other reason I'm missing?
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You are overclocking, any gaming RAM is likely to be overclocking because AMD's spec is 5200 for 2 sticks. EXPO and XMP are semi-automated overclocking profiles. XMP still works on most boards, as far as I'm aware, but if it doesn't you should be able to change the memory frequency yourself.
 
Tetras said:
You are overclocking, any gaming RAM is likely to be overclocking because AMD's spec is 5200 for 2 sticks. EXPO and XMP are semi-automated overclocking profiles. XMP still works on most boards, as far as I'm aware, but if it doesn't you should be able to change the memory frequency yourself.
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Ah thank you, that makes sense. I may go EXPO for ease but I'm sure I should be able to set it otherwise. Not exactly the most important thing in the world, but I do like the fact that the TeamGroup supports a wide range of RGB software, for integrating with everything else.
I was also looking at some low latency Corsair, but then that went out of stock, like everything I want! Ended up ordering a few parts today as I figured if I wait until everything else is back in stock then those won't be. At least I have to wait for the 7800X3D anyway.
 
mark43 said:
Honestly not sure at the moment, I was thinking maybe the 'Gigabyte M27Q X' but hoping for an offer on this or similar. The one you've gone for does look amazing but I don't think I want an ultrawide, just a 27" 1440 really (I've got a 24" 1080 at the moment). I was half temped to pick up a Dell S2721DGFA the other week when it was on offer for £250, and then see where OLEDs are in a couple of years.
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I'd love an OLED but maybe in a few years if burn in gets sorted.

This was recommended in another thread and may very well be the one I get https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-nitro-xv272u-kvbmiiprzx-review
 
Biggilus said:
I'd love an OLED but maybe in a few years if burn in gets sorted.

This was recommended in another thread and may very well be the one I get https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/acer-nitro-xv272u-kvbmiiprzx-review
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Thanks, I'll check that one out. I've been focused on the build at the moment, 7800X3D arrived today but still got a few more parts to sort out.

I'll be trying to sort a monitor once that's done though, as it will be a bit of a crime to be using a 4090 at 1080P. Still undecided on whether to go cheap ish and see where OLED is in a couple of years or spend a bit more.
 
Ah gratz on the CPU - did you preorder with OcUK? I was 3 hours late so lord knows when mine will arrive.

I was hoping to go full 4k with my new rig but the more I looked into it I don't feel even top end tech is ready for 4k full ray tracing at 4k, let alone the monitor side of things which looks limited for 4k. Probably going for a mid range GPU like a 6800xt and upgrade that maybe with a next gen card once RT is more widely adopted.
 
For what it's worth, I purchased the Samsung G8 Odessey OLED, and although it doesn't do 4K resolution (Rookie error on my part as I didn't know that 3440x1440 is not 4k) I couldn't be happier with the picture quality. 34" is probably the largest screen I can fit on my desk.

I attached some links for you. Hope you manage to find the one you want eventually.

I put the LG OLED C2 down as many folks say that hands down the C2 wins. For the price for a 48" you get a fair amount of screen.

https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors...-inch-175hz-curved-ultra-wqhd-ls34bg850suxxu/

https://www.dell.com/en-uk/shop/ali...dwf/apd/210-bfrq/monitors-monitor-accessories

https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-oled48c24la

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phil...urved-ultrawide-gaming-monitor-mo-033-ph.html

I almost went with the Philips Oled but it wasn't HDMI 2.1 like the G8.
 
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Biggilus said:
Ah gratz on the CPU - did you preorder with OcUK? I was 3 hours late so lord knows when mine will arrive.

I was hoping to go full 4k with my new rig but the more I looked into it I don't feel even top end tech is ready for 4k full ray tracing at 4k, let alone the monitor side of things which looks limited for 4k. Probably going for a mid range GPU like a 6800xt and upgrade that maybe with a next gen card once RT is more widely adopted.
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Yeah I was one of the lucky few to get one from OcUK, hope yours doesn't take too long. The only downside is I really wanted to get them to do a custom build for me, but didn't want to wait for more availability on the 7800X3D so this forced me into a self build, but sure it will be fine.

I must admit I have thought a few times maybe I should go mid range, it's what I usually do, and reading your thread the other day made me think about it again. But I think I'm gonna splash out on this occasion, I'm generally really frugal and don't spend out on much else, so figured I'd treat myself.
 
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