Upgrade advice - finalise motherboard / RAM / final components

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Hey, following on from the advice and discussions in my previous thread, I've got the CPU ordered and it is due next week. That seems like a fair time for me to get the rest of the components ordered! I thought I'd start a fresh thread given it was going on for so long due to delays at my end! I've been waiting on the CPU which is now in transit. So far I've got here / on order:

Ordered:
- AMD R7 7800X3D (due Monday)
- Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE (in my hands)

Fairly happy:
Storage - I'll get some combination of the SN770 or SN850X to get some generic storage and for dual booting into linux and windows
Case - I'll probably get the P600S suggested in that thread which seems to fit my needs and should fit everything in it

Advice would be greatly appreciated:

PSU - Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 PCTE5 1000W or equiv was suggested in the previous thread. This still looking like a good one?

RAM - There were a couple suggested in the previous thread but have no real idea here. Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB and TeamGroup Vulcan 32GB DDR5 were both suggested. Happy to completely take advice on this one!

Motherboard - There seems to be fairly limited information out there on recommended boards for the 7800X3D and some worrying reports about some Asus boards and faults but these will be very minor in the grand scheme of things. The Asus TUF B650+, MSI B650 Tomahawk, Gigabyte AORUS Elite, Asrock B650, MSI X670E Carbon (but on the extremely pricey side) and Asus TUF X670 all come up a lot but really happy for advice here.

GPU - The 7900XT is still fairly up there on my list but don't know whether any of the recent releases have impacted that as a suggested option. Budget could potentially stretch to something like the XTX but I'm not sure that my needs are there at the minute.

Would be great to pull the trigger on these last bits over the weekend so I can look at getting this built next week (finally! after 12 or so years since my last build). Any advice that anyone has would be greatly appreciated and thanks again to everyone who gave advice in the last thread.
 
Advice would be greatly appreciated:

PSU - Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 PCTE5 1000W or equiv was suggested in the previous thread. This still looking like a good one?

Of the in-stock PSUs, I like the be quiet pure power 12 M 750 (£110), but it is maybe more suited to an nvidia 4070 / 4070 Ti build than e.g. a 7900 XTX.

RAM - There were a couple suggested in the previous thread but have no real idea here. Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB and TeamGroup Vulcan 32GB DDR5 were both suggested. Happy to completely take advice on this one!

With the X3D I wouldn't care, KF560C36BBEK2-32 is £128.99 so that'd be good enough for me (Kingston C36 6000), Corsair have an equivalent for the same price.

Motherboard - There seems to be fairly limited information out there on recommended boards for the 7800X3D and some worrying reports about some Asus boards and faults but these will be very minor in the grand scheme of things. The Asus TUF B650+, MSI B650 Tomahawk, Gigabyte AORUS Elite, Asrock B650, MSI X670E Carbon (but on the extremely pricey side) and Asus TUF X670 all come up a lot but really happy for advice here.

B650 Tomahawk has decent specs, including spdif, but it is entirely PCI-E 4.0. The TUF B650-PLUS has 3 M.2, one of which is PCI-E 5.0, but the graphics are PCI-E 4.0. B650 Aorus Elite has good VRM and is 8-layer PCB, but the sound is on the poopier side and you only get 3 jacks. X670E Carbon isn't comparable to any of those boards because of the price and high-end chipset, it has PCI-E 5.0 graphics, 2 PCI-E 5.0 M.2 (4 M.2 in total).

The VRM will be fine any of those boards, so it comes down to: how much PCI-E 5.0 do you want and what other features do you care about, like rear spdif & USB type-C.

Graphics card: not really, 4070 is a fair chunk slower than a 7900 XT, so I wouldn't consider them in comparable tiers, but the 7900 XT has dropped £50 recently (can get Sapphire reference for £750 @ OCUK).
 
Seems like your in a fairly similar boat to me. Replacing an I7920 build

If it helps I went with
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro which is around same level of SN850X, Dont know much about dual booting, general rule of thum would be fastest drive as boot, game drive doesnt matter as much about super fast speeds
Case: Lian Li Lancool 3 (over the top but I liked the look) for better value Lian Li 216 is good, Fractal have some good choices, had Phanteks G360A and G500A on my shortlist, the general advise is a mesh front, however the 7 7800x3d isnt as hot as other CPUs so may not be as important if you prefer the look of the P600
So your choices seem fine

PSU: Corsair RM850 . I looked on a power supply tier list went looked at the a list of power supplies above 800w and chose the lowest priced one that was well rated. Thermal takes GF3 is rated A+ on the list I looked at so would be very good, not sure I would spend £200 though. I set myself an uppoer limited of £150 as I didnt really feel the need to go hat much over 750 or 800w. But of you feel you need 1000w it appears to be a very good power supply.

Ram: I went with https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...kit-white-ff4d532g6000hc30dc01-my-0b6-tg.html
But I am doing a white build so the look may be horrid for. I aimed for lowest 6000mhz ram with good timings.

Motherboard: I went with MSI MAG b650 Edge wifi atx as I wanted more More than 4 sata ports. I would check does it have enough Sata connections for you (most have 4 or less you may not have an issue with that) does it have enough M2 slots. I would say unless you have a specific need for the X series its not necessary. Avoid the Asus Prime, probably stick to ATX as it will be easier to work with as you are going with an atx case. Should be able to get something good 220-250 for B650 or under £300 for X670. At a complete stab in the dark I would go with Mag b650 Tomahawk.

GPU: I am going to limp along with an older card for a few months but if you can get a 7900XT for around 750 or less or a 6950 close to the £600 that is what I would go with right now
 
Of the in-stock PSUs, I like the be quiet pure power 12 M 750 (£110), but it is maybe more suited to an nvidia 4070 / 4070 Ti build than e.g. a 7900 XTX.

With the X3D I wouldn't care, KF560C36BBEK2-32 is £128.99 so that'd be good enough for me (Kingston C36 6000), Corsair have an equivalent for the same price.

B650 Tomahawk has decent specs, including spdif, but it is entirely PCI-E 4.0. The TUF B650-PLUS has 3 M.2, one of which is PCI-E 5.0, but the graphics are PCI-E 4.0. B650 Aorus Elite has good VRM and is 8-layer PCB, but the sound is on the poopier side and you only get 3 jacks. X670E Carbon isn't comparable to any of those boards because of the price and high-end chipset, it has PCI-E 5.0 graphics, 2 PCI-E 5.0 M.2 (4 M.2 in total).

The VRM will be fine any of those boards, so it comes down to: how much PCI-E 5.0 do you want and what other features do you care about, like rear spdif & USB type-C.

Graphics card: not really, 4070 is a fair chunk slower than a 7900 XT, so I wouldn't consider them in comparable tiers, but the 7900 XT has dropped £50 recently (can get Sapphire reference for £750 @ OCUK).

Thanks very much for the reply. On the PSU front, when you say that it might be better suited to those lower powered cards, is that a concern that 750w might not be enough balls for a 7900XT in an AM5 build? I guess that 1000W would be overkill for the finalised spec (assuming an 7900XT for now) and therefore a 850W (like the RM850/x suggested by DavidTJ) would probably be better?

/edit The 850 Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 PCTE5 is available (and in stock) for £165 which might be a good middle ground rather than the 1000W

When you say that you wouldn't really care about the RAM specs, is that just around the balance of performance or more around the less fussiness of the X3D?

Thanks for the points on the motherboards, I'll just base off features and make a decision between the pile of recommended ones. Sound-wise, not really too fussed, only got a standard 2.1 kit over minijack so spdif might be overkill there!

/edit Do you feel that the X670E Carbon would be unnecessary overspend vs. future proofing of board? Bearing in mind that the 7800x3d is probably going to be a fairly long term CPU (still on my original i7 here!) My gut feel is the high end board vs. mid range CPU (and lack of anything that is going to need pcie 5) might be pushing it. I do really struggle with picking the board given the relatively high price across the board and generally comparible specs. I don't really think that the lack of PCI-E 5 on the b650 tomahawk is going to be a limiting factor to me but always feels a big bad to get something that has something missing haha. Maybe that is the best choice?

Understood on graphics card, price drop on the 7900 XT to around £750 makes it a bit more palatable over the nearer £900 that it was when I was first talking about it! Assume that the sapphire reference card should be fine (given that is the one that I have seen for cheaper!?

Thanks again for all of the advice throughout
 
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Seems like your in a fairly similar boat to me. Replacing an I7920 build

If it helps I went with
Storage: Solidigm P44 Pro which is around same level of SN850X, Dont know much about dual booting, general rule of thum would be fastest drive as boot, game drive doesnt matter as much about super fast speeds
Case: Lian Li Lancool 3 (over the top but I liked the look) for better value Lian Li 216 is good, Fractal have some good choices, had Phanteks G360A and G500A on my shortlist, the general advise is a mesh front, however the 7 7800x3d isnt as hot as other CPUs so may not be as important if you prefer the look of the P600
So your choices seem fine

PSU: Corsair RM850 . I looked on a power supply tier list went looked at the a list of power supplies above 800w and chose the lowest priced one that was well rated. Thermal takes GF3 is rated A+ on the list I looked at so would be very good, not sure I would spend £200 though. I set myself an uppoer limited of £150 as I didnt really feel the need to go hat much over 750 or 800w. But of you feel you need 1000w it appears to be a very good power supply.

Ram: I went with https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...kit-white-ff4d532g6000hc30dc01-my-0b6-tg.html
But I am doing a white build so the look may be horrid for. I aimed for lowest 6000mhz ram with good timings.

Motherboard: I went with MSI MAG b650 Edge wifi atx as I wanted more More than 4 sata ports. I would check does it have enough Sata connections for you (most have 4 or less you may not have an issue with that) does it have enough M2 slots. I would say unless you have a specific need for the X series its not necessary. Avoid the Asus Prime, probably stick to ATX as it will be easier to work with as you are going with an atx case. Should be able to get something good 220-250 for B650 or under £300 for X670. At a complete stab in the dark I would go with Mag b650 Tomahawk.

GPU: I am going to limp along with an older card for a few months but if you can get a 7900XT for around 750 or less or a 6950 close to the £600 that is what I would go with right now

Thanks very much for your comments, good to hear what someone else went for in a similar position to me! I'll probably get a 7900XT given that my current 1080 is a bit on the old side (and can be donated to my other half!). Your all white / visible cases choices seem to be the only main differences for me, mine is going to be in a window-less case and stuck under a desk so the internal asthetics are much less important! Best of luck with your build!
 
Thanks very much for the reply. On the PSU front, when you say that it might be better suited to those lower powered cards, is that a concern that 750w might not be enough balls for a 7900XT in an AM5 build? I guess that 1000W would be overkill for the finalised spec (assuming an 7900XT for now) and therefore a 850W (like the RM850/x suggested by DavidTJ) would probably be better?

/edit The 850 Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 PCTE5 is available (and in stock) for £165 which might be a good middle ground rather than the 1000W

It is for a few reasons. The main one is that pcie5 psus often seem to prioritise the 12/16 pin connector and might not give you many 8 pins, which isn't ideal for AMD cards that use a few. The second reason is that ada seems to have calmed the spikes that the 30 series had, but rdna 3 still spikes fairly high, so I'd be more inclined to have headroom with an AMD card.

I wouldn't be very keen on buying a RM/RMx PSU now that ATX 3.0/PCIE5 PSUs are out, unless I was confident in sticking with AMD cards, though you can buy an adapter for most(?) Corsair PSUs.

When you say that you wouldn't really care about the RAM specs, is that just around the balance of performance or more around the less fussiness of the X3D?

Less fussiness, see here (HUB video, 7 game average: starts at 7:03).

/edit Do you feel that the X670E Carbon would be unnecessary overspend vs. future proofing of board? Bearing in mind that the 7800x3d is probably going to be a fairly long term CPU (still on my original i7 here!) My gut feel is the high end board vs. mid range CPU (and lack of anything that is going to need pcie 5) might be pushing it. I do really struggle with picking the board given the relatively high price across the board and generally comparible specs. I don't really think that the lack of PCI-E 5 on the b650 tomahawk is going to be a limiting factor to me but always feels a big bad to get something that has something missing haha. Maybe that is the best choice?

It is hard to predict the future obviously, but with current cards, there's only one which really suffers from using an older PCI-E gen and that is the 6500 XT (which has just 4 lanes). The 4090 only loses a few percent in a PCI-E 3.0 board (TPU article), which I'd expect to be matched by future PCI-E 5.0 cards in a PCI-E 4.0 board. SSDs, I think current PCI-E 4.0 will be enough for any future DirectStorage enabled games, from what I've seen the early benchmarks don't show much difference between even low-end PCI-E 3.0 drives and high-end PCI-E 4.0 drives. You could get a board like the TUF B650-PLUS (with PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slot) to hedge your bets and at least cover the SSD, but my opinion is that it won't matter. If we look at B450 boards, for example (which are PCI-E 3.0), you wouldn't feel like you lost out on much by putting a 4080 or 4090 in it, certainly not enough to bother upgrading to B550.
 
It is for a few reasons. The main one is that pcie5 psus often seem to prioritise the 12/16 pin connector and might not give you many 8 pins, which isn't ideal for AMD cards that use a few. The second reason is that ada seems to have calmed the spikes that the 30 series had, but rdna 3 still spikes fairly high, so I'd be more inclined to have headroom with an AMD card.

I wouldn't be very keen on buying a RM/RMx PSU now that ATX 3.0/PCIE5 PSUs are out, unless I was confident in sticking with AMD cards, though you can buy an adapter for most(?) Corsair PSUs.



Less fussiness, see here (HUB video, 7 game average: starts at 7:03).



It is hard to predict the future obviously, but with current cards, there's only one which really suffers from using an older PCI-E gen and that is the 6500 XT (which has just 4 lanes). The 4090 only loses a few percent in a PCI-E 3.0 board (TPU article), which I'd expect to be matched by future PCI-E 5.0 cards in a PCI-E 4.0 board. SSDs, I think current PCI-E 4.0 will be enough for any future DirectStorage enabled games, from what I've seen the early benchmarks don't show much difference between even low-end PCI-E 3.0 drives and high-end PCI-E 4.0 drives. You could get a board like the TUF B650-PLUS (with PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slot) to hedge your bets and at least cover the SSD, but my opinion is that it won't matter. If we look at B450 boards, for example (which are PCI-E 3.0), you wouldn't feel like you lost out on much by putting a 4080 or 4090 in it, certainly not enough to bother upgrading to B550.
All very helpful, thank you. I've done some research off of the back of this and have this down as my 'final' (ish) order list:

Motherboard - B650 Tomahawk (takes 2x 8pin, and 3x m2 which will be fine and the one without heatsink can be used for large storage rather than fast access drive. Points completely taken about the PCIE5 stuff, it's not going to fuss me in the medium to long term especially considering I am happy with my current old SSDs)
GPU - Sapphire 7900 XT (2x 8pin, seems well reviewed and no major concerns about the Sapphire one unless any thoughts differently here?)
RAM - Corsair CMK32GX5M2D6000Z36 (only reason over kingston was lack of RGB to keep things nice and dull!)
Case - P600S (windowless, black, should fit everything easily and comes preloaded with some decent fans from what I've read and should be nice and quiet but efficient thermally)
Storage - Some combination of the SN850X/SN770
PSU - ??

I'm still not entirely sure that I know the best route for the PSU. 850W definitely seems to be the sweet spot for it and there are a few that keep popping up as recommended. One of those is the RM850x which seems to have all the 8pin connectors needed (2x 8pin for the mb and 4x 6+2 pin for the gfx) but you wouldn't be keen on recommending a purchase. I must admit I am getting a bit confused about 6+2 / 8 pin etc. with the modular supplies. The Thermaltake Toughpower 850w seems to have the same number of 8pin / 6+2 pin so is that a better route maybe?

Does everything else look ok on the pick list above? (I would imagine so as it is pretty much everything that has been recommended =D)

Thanks again (again) and sorry for a bit more back and forth!
 
GPU - Sapphire 7900 XT (2x 8pin, seems well reviewed and no major concerns about the Sapphire one unless any thoughts differently here?)

Not that I'm aware of, if you're buying the £750 one then that is an AMD card, so any review, or user experience of this model will apply the same, even from a different brand.

Case - P600S (windowless, black, should fit everything easily and comes preloaded with some decent fans from what I've read and should be nice and quiet but efficient thermally)

It mentions on their website you can remove the sound panels too if you want to (for extra airflow), but I wouldn't. I usually add an additional 140mm fan to my specs for this case (140mm M25 PWM fan is £10), which covers you for all the front and rear mounts. The white case has RGB fans I think, but not the black version.

Storage - Some combination of the SN850X/SN770

These aren't on offer anymore, I don't think, so you might want to shop around. For high-end drives I'd consider any of: firecuda 530, kc3000, crucial p5p, solidgm p44 pro. For the secondary drives, SN770, SN570, SN700, Samsung 980 non-Pro, or just for light storage even the 670p (just because how it so cheap right now, even though I don't like QLC).

I'm still not entirely sure that I know the best route for the PSU. 850W definitely seems to be the sweet spot for it and there are a few that keep popping up as recommended. One of those is the RM850x which seems to have all the 8pin connectors needed (2x 8pin for the mb and 4x 6+2 pin for the gfx) but you wouldn't be keen on recommending a purchase. I must admit I am getting a bit confused about 6+2 / 8 pin etc. with the modular supplies. The Thermaltake Toughpower 850w seems to have the same number of 8pin / 6+2 pin so is that a better route maybe?

They aren't bad PSUs, they're pretty well 'battle-tested' at this point, I'm just more inclined to recommend something that claims to be designed for modern systems and I've seen recent reviews of. I can't even remember what the difference is between the RM850 and RM850x so I can't recommend them compared to the newer PSUs I'm more familiar with like MSI A1000G and Thermaltake GF3.

EPS 8 pin is for the CPU (or 4+4, which is same thing, but supports older boards that only have a 4 pin for CPU).

AMD (or many non-FE 30 series and older nvidia) GPU use PCIE 6+2 (was originally 6, but usually 8 now, so the detachable 2 makes them compatible both ways).

40 series nvidia GPU use 12+4 pin (was originally just 12, but now 16 and called pcie5 on the PSU box), except for 4070 which I think some still use 8 pin.

PSUs may share the ports for these cables on the modular end, but you can't plug them whatever you want at the device end (e.g. CPU 8 pin is not compatible with GPU 8 pin).
 
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Not that I'm aware of, if you're buying the £750 one then that is an AMD card, so any review, or user experience of this model will apply the same, even from a different brand.
Understood, thank you.
It mentions on their website you can remove the sound panels too if you want to (for extra airflow), but I wouldn't. I usually add an additional 140mm fan to my specs for this case (140mm M25 PWM fan is £10), which covers you for all the front and rear mounts. The white case has RGB fans I think, but not the black version.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll get a decent (and quiet) 140mm fan too then. And agreed, I'll probably be leaving things all sealed up unless I start hitting temp issues!
These aren't on offer anymore, I don't think, so you might want to shop around. For high-end drives I'd consider any of: firecuda 530, kc3000, crucial p5p, solidgm p44 pro. For the secondary drives, SN770, SN570, SN700, Samsung 980 non-Pro, or just for light storage even the 670p (just because how it so cheap right now, even though I don't like QLC).
Ok understood, thank you. Will do a bit of hunting there.
They aren't bad PSUs, they're pretty well 'battle-tested' at this point, I'm just more inclined to recommend something that claims to be designed for modern systems and I've seen recent reviews of. I can't even remember what the difference is between the RM850 and RM850x so I can't recommend them compared to the newer PSUs I'm more familiar with like MSI A1000G and Thermaltake GF3.
Ok thank you, so the Thermaltake GF3 850W would be a decent choice here then? Hard to find a definitive list of cables included but did find:

PCIe 6+2Pin X 4

So should be fine on the GPU front and assume that the motherboard is standard anyway.
EPS 8 pin is for the CPU (or 4+4, which is same thing, but supports older boards that only have a 4 pin for CPU).

AMD (or most 30 series and older nvidia) GPU use PCIE 6+2 (was originally 6, but usually 8 now, so the detachable 2 makes them compatible both ways).

40 series nvidia GPU use 12+4 pin (was originally just 12, but now 16 and called pcie5 on the PSU box), except for 4070 which I think some still use 8 pin.

PSUs may share the ports for these cables on the modular end, but you can't plug them whatever you want at the device end (e.g. CPU 8 pin is not compatible with GPU 8 pin).
Ok thank you, see what you meant about future proofing. That GF3 lists of a 12+4 so gives the flexibility there. The B650 Tomahawk shows 2x 8 pin for the CPU, assume that is something that will be fairly standard on the modular ones given that they don't seem to list them?
 
Ok thank you, see what you meant about future proofing. That GF3 lists of a 12+4 so gives the flexibility there.

Yeah, that's the idea. If you did buy an older Corsair PSU then you can buy a kit for them if necessary, OCUK have it (search for 12VHPWR), but I can't confirm which PSUs are compatible with the kit.

(motherboard/cpu) The GF3 850 and GF3 1000 listing is a bit confusing, but they list both a 4+4 pin and 8 pin under cable quantity. I checked the review on TPU (of the 1000 watt GF3) and in the list (which I think is done manually rather than just copied from the manufacturer) it does say you get both of these cables. I'd be surprised if a modern ATX 3.0 850 PSU didn't have 2 EPS 12v, because they're very common on motherboards now.

Ok thank you, so the Thermaltake GF3 850W would be a decent choice here then? Hard to find a definitive list of cables included but did find:

PCIe 6+2Pin X 4

So should be fine on the GPU front and assume that the motherboard is standard anyway.

I'll try counting the buggers from the picture (of the GF3 850).

There's a port that is ONLY for the 12VHPWR and you then get 4 other CPU or PCIE ports.

If you use 2 separate PCI-E 6+2 for the graphics card rather than daisy chaining (recommended), then that uses half your ports.

If you use 2 8 pin EPS 12v for the CPU, then that uses the other ports.

If you ever want a card with 3 PCI-E 6+2 pin then you'd have to daisy chain one of the 2 cables you have, since they have 2 connectors each (should be alright, but this is a common problem with PSUs that have a 12/16 pin that you only get 2 independent PCIE cables for 8 pins).
 
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Yeah, that's the idea. If you did buy an older Corsair PSU then you can buy a kit for them if necessary, OCUK have it (search for 12VHPWR), but I can't confirm which PSUs are compatible with the kit.

(motherboard/cpu) The GF3 850 and GF3 1000 listing is a bit confusing, but they list both a 4+4 pin and 8 pin under cable quantity. I checked the review on TPU (of the 1000 watt GF3) and in the list (which I think is done manually rather than just copied from the manufacturer) it does say you get both of these cables. I'd be surprised if a modern ATX 3.0 850 PSU didn't have 2 EPS 12v, because they're very common on motherboards now.



I'll try counting the buggers from the picture (of the GF3 850).

There's a port that is ONLY for the 12VHPWR and you then get 4 other CPU or PCIE ports.

If you use 2 separate PCI-E 6+2 for the graphics card rather than daisy chaining (recommended), then that uses half your ports.

If you use 2 8 pin EPS 12v for the CPU, then that uses the other ports.

If you ever want a card with 3 PCI-E 6+2 pin then you'd have to daisy chain one of the 2 cables you have, since they have 2 connectors each (should be alright, but this is a common problem with PSUs that have a 12/16 pin that you only get 2 independent PCIE cables for 8 pins).

Thanks for looking into it, I've had a look over the pictures of the GS3 850 too and get what you mean about the 2 vs 3 8 pin ones. I guess in unlikely event that I upgrade my card, I'll just have to keep that in mind and factor in a PSU upgrade too! It's really unlikely to be anytime in the near future so all good. I have had a look to see if I could find anything defintiive on the cable front and the closest to a backup for the review you posted was on Tom's Hardware for the 1200w one where it says:

8 pin EPS12V (700mm) - Cable Count = 1
4+4 pin EPS12V (700mm) - Cable Count = 1

Unless there is any pressing reason not to, that GS3 850w seems like a good enough pick for now!

I think...that might be everything locked down now! Assuming that nothing problematic comes up with stock tomorrow, I will pull the trigger on all of those bits and hopefully have something built by the end of next week. Thanks again for all your help @Tetras and to everyone else that has given advice.
 
I guess in unlikely event that I upgrade my card, I'll just have to keep that in mind and factor in a PSU upgrade too!

I think there's a good chance you'd be fine anyway, since the load would still be spread across 2 independent cables (& 3 connectors). It'd have to be a pretty hefty card to take down a 850 watt PSU.
 
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I think there's a good chance you'd be fine anyway, since the load would still be spread across 2 independent cables (& 3 connectors). It'd have to be a pretty hefty card to take down a 850 watt PSU.
I think it is highly unlikely anyway, it'll be a completely different landscape by the time I come to my next refresh in 10 years time!
 
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