What would you buy? BMW or Tesla?
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I was looking at getting a Tesla Model S myself recently . I didn't in the end as for me decided was too big for our roads however the universal advice I was given from owners was to go for the face lift model as much better built.
the 75D specifically.
also don't get the cheapest one you find . it's pushing your budget but if you can stretch to 28-29k and you can find a 2019 car with maybe 50-60k on the clock which will likely be a far better car and with battery and motor warranty remaining
the free life time charging was what initially attracted me but is that REALLY worth so much to you as to be getting an older car which is considered to be more problematic and without any warranty? i still like the model S (the only Tesla other than the roadster I like the look of) but I don't think I would get one at your budget personally if that is the absolute max
the 75D specifically.
also don't get the cheapest one you find . it's pushing your budget but if you can stretch to 28-29k and you can find a 2019 car with maybe 50-60k on the clock which will likely be a far better car and with battery and motor warranty remaining
the free life time charging was what initially attracted me but is that REALLY worth so much to you as to be getting an older car which is considered to be more problematic and without any warranty? i still like the model S (the only Tesla other than the roadster I like the look of) but I don't think I would get one at your budget personally if that is the absolute max
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Small cars can fit rear facing seats?
Sorry, but you're wrong.
There is fitting, and then there is actually fitting.
Don't forget, rear facing seats can be used till 6 years of age. The child needs legroom, so the seat is right at the ledge of the seat.
The passenger seat will be completely unusable in this situation. Therfore the car can't accept a rear facing seat (in my view).
The MPS I had, the wife could NOT sit in yhe front passenger seat for more than a few mins. The seat was bolt upright, slammed as far as it could forward so to accommodate the rear facing seat behind.
Then there is even getting a baby seat behind the drivers seat. Don't make me laugh, impossible.
I've test fitted my pair of seats in 12 different cars. The ONLY ones where both kids seats fit and the passenger seat was still useable was in the Model S and the 4 series Gran coupe. (Othwr BMW models will also allow this.. however I don't like the look of them)
Of course, there are plenty of cars that also allow this functionality, a Audi Q5 for example. But i don't like them.
So... please don't say that small cars can take rear facing seats. As that is absolutely un true.
Model 3 has less rear space. Not suitable for my needs. Plus, don't really like how they look. Amd out of budget.
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some employers do it as part of a green campaign. as of a few months back our place stopped handing out access to the FREE charge points and now are just for visitors or emergencies but staff still have access to a bank of charge points at only 14p kWh...
up until a few months back however we had free charging too and those with the card still do. I only realised it had stopped after ordering my EV last week (typical!!!)
My office rate is 21p per kwh. I negotiated the rate on a 4 year fixed rate just before it all went to shiz.
Works out as approx 8p per mile.
Employer is happy for me to charge every day whilst I'm at work. Which will be pretty much very minimal based on my needs.
I do long trips now and again, so might be a £10 extra cost per week on the bill.
In other news.
I've learn that upgrading to the digital cockpit on a 435d Is a 1k purchase, and can be done myself. Makes the 435d I'm looking at even more attractive
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It's not worth doing at all. It doesn't really do anything the standard one doesn't.
But... it looks cool! Why not have fancy bells eh
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From what i've read i thought the average degradation of a Tesla pack after 8 years and 100k miles would be around the 10-15%
I'd expect to get to around 12 years and 200k miles with up to 20% deg.
Saying that a Tesla even in warranty would worry me let alone out of it with their absolutely terrible service reputation
I'd expect to get to around 12 years and 200k miles with up to 20% deg.
Saying that a Tesla even in warranty would worry me let alone out of it with their absolutely terrible service reputation
I think the main difference, aside from the obvious style changes between sport/eco, is that the increased spacing in the centre allows for the detailed navigation details to display between the dials. Not sure the 6WA cluster on the F3X does that?
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Then you are stuck using the built in nav versus Waze. Rip
It did strike me as a bit of a wasted opportunity that you can't show much (anything?) else in that display space - as you suggest, if you elect to use Waze on CarPlay instead, then it just ends up an empty space. The same is true if you choose to put the BMW navigation details up on the HUD - it can't show HUD and cluster, only one or the other.
I can't imagine it would have taken much extra software work to get it to show any of the other things that are available on the split screen iDrive for example.
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Yeah the Merc has a quirk where you can't put the map in the dash but you can use the left hand side zone to show the next direction (integrated into Waze). And if you have Waze on it disables any route guidance on the built in nav...but you can have left zone next direction from Waze and right zone the inbuilt nav birds eye view.
It's just a nice thing to know I can do it.
The HUD is far more of an important option to have imo
If you do this, get it done properly. I didn't and at first it worked well then spat the dummy out and had to get a professional installer to fix all the issues it caused.
BMW will also not touch it - as I found out. If done properly, it is, as you say, very cool.
I've just come out of a F31 BMW M Sport touring 330D to an I Pace and I'm enjoying the electric drive very much.
Out of your choices, I wouldn't want the Tesla - or any electric car without any form of warranty.
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No you are talking rubbish, my Mrs had a fiesta and we were fine with a rear facing seat and I managed it with a 911. You are talking about i-size, not a standard rear facing as normal rear facing is to around 2 years old. There is a difference. Why not put them in the front and disable the airbag? I'm sure you could get a smaller car but you clearly have already decided on 2 cars from the opposite end if the spectrum imo. If a car can fit an adult in the back, than a car seat should be fine too, unless your Mrs is 7 foot tall.
I might have missed it, but how far are you driving?
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Not such a big issue in the UK. There were major issues with the early models being left at 100% in very hot temperatures (40c+).