What would you buy? BMW or Tesla?

theone8181 said:
No you are talking rubbish, my Mrs had a fiesta and we were fine with a rear facing seat and I managed it with a 911. You are talking about i-size, not a standard rear facing as normal rear facing is to around 2 years old. There is a difference. Why not put them in the front and disable the airbag? I'm sure you could get a smaller car but you clearly have already decided on 2 cars from the opposite end if the spectrum imo. If a car can fit an adult in the back, than a car seat should be fine too, unless your Mrs is 7 foot tall.
I might have missed it, but how far are you driving?
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theone8181 said:
No you are talking rubbish, my Mrs had a fiesta and we were fine with a rear facing seat and I managed it with a 911. You are talking about i-size, not a standard rear facing as normal rear facing is to around 2 years old. There is a difference. Why not put them in the front and disable the airbag? I'm sure you could get a smaller car but you clearly have already decided on 2 cars from the opposite end if the spectrum imo. If a car can fit an adult in the back, than a car seat should be fine too, unless your Mrs is 7 foot tall.
I might have missed it, but how far are you driving?
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I'm not talking rubbish at all.

I could not fit a baby seat behind the drivers seat in a Mazda 3.

The rear facing MiniKid seat made it so the passenger front seat was not possible to sit in. The ONLY person I know who fits is a 5ft7 chap. And he moaned that the seat position gave him back ache.

Like I said, the only cars that I've tested so far that meet my need for the rear facing seat (up to 6 years) and the baby seat are the ones ove specified. (The ones I like anyway)

I'm looking at the BMW as a better choice now.

I do 8k miles per year, and I don't need to be told that a D isn't suitable for that. I know, and don't care.
 
Diagro said:
Hey,

I've shortlisted two cars.

A 2017 BMW XDrive 435D 60k miles 23k.

A 2015 Tesla Model S 85D 76k miles 24k.
(Driven a P90D several times as family had one, loved it)

I wouldn't need to pay for charging the tesla. I'd charge at work for free.

What would you do?
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BMW looks like a good deal. But you can go with Tesla if battery is still in good condition.
 
Diagro said:
I'm not talking rubbish at all.

I could not fit a baby seat behind the drivers seat in a Mazda 3.

The rear facing MiniKid seat made it so the passenger front seat was not possible to sit in. The ONLY person I know who fits is a 5ft7 chap. And he moaned that the seat position gave him back ache.

Like I said, the only cars that I've tested so far that meet my need for the rear facing seat (up to 6 years) and the baby seat are the ones ove specified. (The ones I like anyway)

I'm looking at the BMW as a better choice now.

I do 8k miles per year, and I don't need to be told that a D isn't suitable for that. I know, and don't care.
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At 8k a year, 25 mpg isn't much. I think you will have dpf problems, why not go for a 330 petrol? Infact why are you looking at a 4 series anyway aren't they 3 door, oh scratch that you said gran coupe. C class then? You just want a medium sized car or above, octavia vrs? As your current mog is poor, I assume a lot of city driving, in which case nit sure a diesel will be that much better (although will be smoother as i assume you'd go auto).
 
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Still miss my 535D so i would go BMW ... a great engine for epic trips ;)


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8k miles in a diesel, averaging 40mpg and fuel cost of 165.9 is £1508


Petrol, 27mpg (I averaged 29 in my S5, but on the safe side), 147.9 and 8k miles is £1992


The difference isn’t that substantial - I’ll play devils advocate and say that if you feel it is, should you be spending 20k+ on a car?
 
MrRockliffe said:
8k miles in a diesel, averaging 40mpg and fuel cost of 165.9 is £1508


Petrol, 27mpg (I averaged 29 in my S5, but on the safe side), 147.9 and 8k miles is £1992


The difference isn’t that substantial - I’ll play devils advocate and say that if you feel it is, should you be spending 20k+ on a car?
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Absolutely spot on. I know people who have passed up on their preferred car (ICE or EV) because it was not as efficient as the car they more reluctanctly ended up with. Yet they were spending in the region of £30k or more.
 
sigma said:
I'd buy Rroff's truck.
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Good luck with that - needs a new turbo (keep putting it off) and about the point it needs chassis treatment before it starts actually rusting rather than surface corrosion. Probably gonna end up sinking another 3-5 grand in it to keep it running and tidy up a few little issues. (Actually isn't too bad for fuel economy - ~30 on touring tyres, ~27 on all-terrain - but I've probably spent almost as much in fuel on it over the last few years as I paid for it LOL).

I still way prefer driving it to anything else though but mostly been driving other stuff lately - got a bad itch for a new car but I'd have to get rid of something first to free up a parking spot :(

dLockers said:
Yeah diesel is a definite no on 8k a year.
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People say that a lot but I've never really seen major issues from it aside from EGRs getting gunked up.
 
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MrRockliffe said:
8k miles in a diesel, averaging 40mpg and fuel cost of 165.9 is £1508


Petrol, 27mpg (I averaged 29 in my S5, but on the safe side), 147.9 and 8k miles is £1992


The difference isn’t that substantial - I’ll play devils advocate and say that if you feel it is, should you be spending 20k+ on a car?
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That was what I was getting at, it's kind of in the noise compared to the cost of getting a new car, unless of course its free.
 
Rroff said:
People say that a lot but I've never really seen major issues from it aside from EGRs getting gunked up.
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I would say it isn't the distance per year but whether the car ever gets a proper run out. 8k is fine if the car does a good 20-30 mile run every few weeks, OTOH if it only ever does short 3 mile School and shopping runs that is bad.

my uncle kindly left me his 4.5 year old pug 308 1.6 diesel in his will. under 16k on the clock. He never should have been sold it by the main dealer... all he did was pootle about his village and into local town.

we had had it months before it went into limp home mode and the garage tried their best but the dpf was fully clogged. a not inexpensive replacement job needed.

7 years on we still have the car and I can't knock it, but now it gets decent runs out and is driven more enthusiastically. still only does around 8k a year miles however.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
I would say it isn't the distance per year but whether the car ever gets a proper run out. 8k is fine if the car does a good 20-30 mile run every few weeks, OTOH if it only ever does short 3 mile School and shopping runs that is bad.

my uncle kindly left me his 4.5 year old pug 308 1.6 diesel in his will. under 16k on the clock. He never should have been sold it by the main dealer... all he did was pootle about his village and into local town.

we had had it months before it went into limp home mode and the garage tried their best but the dpf was fully clogged. a not inexpensive replacement job needed.

7 years on we still have the car and I can't knock it, but now it gets decent runs out and is driven more enthusiastically. still only does around 8k a year miles however.
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If it is only ever used for short trips to the shops and school run then yeah - but IMO people panic too much about diesels and lower miles.

As an aside most people running a diesel on low miles probably aren't going to do enough miles to run into those issues before they sell it, etc. though not great for the overall lifespan of the car.
 
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