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Tesla, because a.) you can charge it for free and b.) it's not a diesel.
What would you buy? BMW or Tesla?
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still cant convince my 86 year father to stop part exing his car for a new one every 2 years when they do less than 3,000 miles per year and he insists on a diesel every time "for the economy"
. Longest trip they do is a 28 mile round trip once a month to the supermarket on 50mph/60mph single lane a roads. The rest will be 7 mile round trips to the local town.
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wow he will be constantly being ripped off, and a multitude of 2nd hand buyers will potentially be running into DPF issues due to buying his 2 year old poorly ran diesels.
something like a 3 year old renault zoe or nissan leaf or ioniq or i3 would be absolutely perfect for him (pretty much any EV made in the last 5 years)
the sales people need a boot up the ass for selling him a diesel.... unless he literally ignores their advice
something like a 3 year old renault zoe or nissan leaf or ioniq or i3 would be absolutely perfect for him (pretty much any EV made in the last 5 years)
the sales people need a boot up the ass for selling him a diesel.... unless he literally ignores their advice
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still cant convince my 86 year father to stop part exing his car for a new one every 2 years when they do less than 3,000 miles per year and he insists on a diesel every time "for the economy"
My dad, slightly younger, is very much a diesel person with similar use now. I'm not sure why he is such a diesel fan - back in the day he used to clock up mega business miles and we'd do a lot of road trips/holidays in the old VW Sharan (and similar vehicles before that) when I was a kid - but that hasn't been a thing in years now.
My parents do occasionally do longer trips though - over the weekend they visited family nearly 200 miles away.
EDIT: His dad was very pro-diesel as well, ran a garage and did a lot of mileage, so probably somewhat comes from that.
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In 7 years of ownership (Actually 9 if we include the car before), I did not have a single issue with either of my diesel cars. No particulate filter problems, nothing. I used to use them for a very short commute of no more than 5 miles each way, but also regular monthly long trips as well. In recent years I probably did about 5k miles a year.
Picking a diesel isn't always about whether you do the miles. I personally really enjoyed the effortless, smooth power delivery you only get from a large diesel engine.
Picking a diesel isn't always about whether you do the miles. I personally really enjoyed the effortless, smooth power delivery you only get from a large diesel engine.
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There is no way you'd get my dad into something like a Nissan Leaf LOL, he absolutely hates it when he has to drive smaller hire cars, etc. for work.
I still remember his face when he was supposed to have a BMW 5 series hire car for work and they dropped this off...
He was not a amused.
(We thought someone at work was pranking him at first, the hire company actually argued the toss that it met the criteria...).
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you did the long long runs as well which would clear out the filters.... nothign wrong with short journeys in them, so long as they get a good run out as well.
btw smooth effortless power delivery..................... you literally just summed up an EV.
my mum and dad are currently in a car war (amongst themselves)
they currently have a BMW 2 series tourer ... ever since they got it my mum has complained she does not like it, its too big and she wishes she had her old yaris back.
my dad however hated the yaris as he felt it was too small, no guts behind it and would likely not be as safe in a crash.
the problem is......... my mum drives 75% of the miles, all local about town..... BUT my dad does all the driving when it is long distance so comeing down to see me (200 miles) or going on holiday and he just does not feel comfortable in a small low power car on fast roads.
they have another vehicle the one my dad mostly drives, a 2004 i think it is 4wd mitsubishi L200 pickup my dad uses for messing about on his mates farm.... dad would not trust it is mechanically strong enough to do long miles and besides with what it is used for as well as having had a gun dog in it etc, its filthy.
they cannot agree on what car to get next.......... my suggestion was get a zoe, or i3 or similar electric small car for my mum, and dad bin off his L200 and buy a landrover disco or similar (he has always liked them) or even a newer L200 but with the roof for the back and actually look after it.... it will do the farmy stuff, and if he actually looks after it will be perfect for long hauls as well.
not a cheap option however given his l200 will probably see him out for what he needs.
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I'd argue the power delivery in modern turboed petrol cats is pretty smooth too.
It is, but there are certain times when you'll appreciate the low down torque of the diesel - my petrol car shifts down a gear on particularly steep hills on dual carriageways in places my diesel never did, for example.
They probably love him and why kill the golden goose? they have a repeat brand new car customer every 2 years and they get a low mileage sub 2 year car for them to sell with a balance of manufacturers warranty?
They are nice off the line, but there are times nothing yet replicates a big torquey V6 or V8 diesel, I miss it a lot when I'm driving the Qashqai despite having the 1.6 which has 320nm torque it just doesn't have that smooth effortless power delivery in situations where you notice it most.
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Gears feel archaic to be honest… regardless what’s burning.
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